[lit-ideas] Re: YesMinisterology/Trafalgar

  • From: David Ritchie <ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:11:41 -0700

On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Judith Evans wrote:
> 
> The BBC paragraph's a bit muddled, isn't it?
> 
> Yes, David.  2 new aircraft carriers, one of which will be mothballed, no 
> planes. (No planes in time.) It seems building the carriers is less expensive 
> than cancelling them...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Reminds me of the "Yes Minister" episode in which there was a hospital that 
> ran very efficiently... because there were no patients.
> 
> 
> Dining with the Lord Mayor of London (as one does when one is as triffically 
> important a person as one...is) I was once seated next to the admiral charged 
> with building these two new carriers.  When he heard that I live in the U.S., 
> he expressed what I can only call "carrier envy."  He was sure that the 
> British carriers would be first rate...when they were built...possibly by the 
> French...but the bloomin' U.S. navy has ten of the things...and more in 
> mothballs.  
> 
> If you run into him, do please say that I'd be happy to pop up to Bremerton, 
> which is not so far to drive, and put his name on one of the ones that seems 
> to be going spare.  Who knows, they might throw in a couple of biplanes as a 
> lagniappe?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_the_United_States_Navy
> 
> While in a naval vein, I might mention I've been enjoying David Howarth on 
> Trafalgar, which has the great virtue of including in the account, views from 
> Spanish and French decks.  I learned that one of the Spanish ships, the 
> "Rayo," was commanded by an Irishman, Henry Macdonnel.  As an exercise, I 
> compared Howarth's account of Macdonnel's role with one here: 
> http://www.antrimhistory.net/content.php?cid=478
> 
> You'll see, if you so wish, that the two accounts can't even agree on how to 
> spell Macdonnel.
> 
> Howarth says that Macdonnel had only just taken command of the ship when the 
> fleet sallied out, and at the moment of battle he was in the process of 
> discovering how old and rotten the vessel was.  The answer?  "Very."  In 
> Howard's account, there were two consequences to this discovery: "Rayo" was 
> the only ship in the fight to leave without firing a shot and, just when it 
> seemed the ship might survive, the entire rigging fell overboard.  The ship 
> then drove ashore in a storm and was wrecked.
> 
> 
> The web account has MacDonnell, not only firing during the fight, but then on 
> the day after MacDonnell wants to rescue fellow countrymen, thus 
> demonstrating "indomitable courage."
> 
> A rare instance of two completely opposite interpretations of the same 
> circumstance.
> 
> David Ritchie,
> celebrating Arsenal's win,
> Portland, Oregon
> 
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