In a message dated 8/31/2004 1:16:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, pas@xxxxxxxx writes: euphony wins out. Maybe it's something to do with the longer word going second. It seems that THAT is usually the case. Oddly, this works for 'and' too. There are only 8 hits for "white and black television", but 23,700 for "black and white television". Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html