[lit-ideas] Turing and the idiocy of entertainment

From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:16:31 +0000

the film stinks, btw, so deeply sucking one feels the vacuum.
Including the insulting bullshit allegation  about cairncross and the treason 
by AMT

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There is a line in the new film about Turing  ("The Imitation Game", based on 
Hodges's book, as, I think, a previous film with  D. Jacobi in the main
role) that reminded me of H. Paul G., an Oxonian don. From  memory, or 
rephrasing.

CHRISTOPHER: You'll like this book, Alan. It's all  about CODES.
ALAN: Secret codes?
CHRISTOPHER: No. Just codes. 
ALAN:  But it's like TALKING, then, right?
CHRISTOPHER: What d'you mean?
ALAN: I  mean, when we hold conversations, we don't mean what we say, do we. 
People  don't. People mean otherwise than they say. I never KNOW!

(The passage is  good enough to motivate me to look for the script! O. T. 
O. H., the soundtrack  (I like one with vintage tunes) was not THAT swingy). 

Oddly, part of H.  P. G.'s literature abounds on two keywords here: code model 
of communication (as  H. P. G.'s is not) and inferential model of communication.

But then  Turing was Cantab., not  Oxon.

Cheers,

Speranza

References:

H. P. G., W.o.W.  (Way of Words)
Turing, "Thinking"
Turing, "The Imitation Game"
Ryle,  "The concept of mind".  

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