[lit-ideas] Re: There's Always Tomorrow

  • From: Mike Geary <gearyservice@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:59:17 -0600

Thank you, Bobby.

Mike Geary



On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Mike Geary <gearyservice@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
>
> And that's the truth.
>
> Mike Geary
> a Memphian (of sorts)
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess that I'll respond to this in more detail tomorrow - or not,
>> as the things come to pass. Hopefully formal logic permits me to get sick,
>> to be busy, to die etc.                     O.K.
>>
>>
>>   On Monday, December 30, 2013 2:26 AM, "Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx" <
>> Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  I think it is G. R. Sampson in Making Sense who quotes an experiment
>> with
>> students of philosophy at Lancaster. They were treated to samples like:
>>
>> Autumn follows Summer.
>>
>> and, perhaps
>>
>> There's always tomorrow.
>>
>> Sampson is arguing against Grice/Strawson, "In defense of [a] dogma" of
>> the
>> analytic/synthetic distinction.
>>
>> In a message dated 12/29/2013 7:03:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>> >"There is always tomorrow" is not a  tautology, it's
>> >probabilistic. In a universe in which there is
>> >no movement of planets or stars, there would
>> >be no tomorrow.
>>
>> Well, according to
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
>>
>> planets have little to do with it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Speranza
>>
>> ---
>>
>> From quoted source:
>>
>> "The SI base unit for time is the SI second."
>>
>> "From the "second," larger units such as the "minute", "hour and day are
>> defined, though they are "non-SI" units because they do not use the
>> decimal
>> system, and also because of the occasional need for a leap second."
>>
>> "They are, however, officially accepted for use with the International
>> System."
>>
>> "There are no fixed ratios between "seconds" and "months" or "years" as
>> "months" and "years" have significant variations in length."
>>
>> "The official SI definition of the "second" is as follows."
>>
>> "A second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation
>> corresponding to the transition between the two hyper-fine levels of the
>> ground
>> state of the caesium 133 atom."
>>
>> At its 1997 meeting, the CIPM affirmed that this definition refers to a
>> caesium atom in its ground state at a temperature of 0 K.
>>
>> Previous to 1967, the second was defined as:
>>
>> "the fraction 1/31,556,925.9747 of the tropical year for 1900 January 0
>> at
>> 12 hours ephemeris time."
>>
>> The current definition of the second, coupled with the current
>> definition
>> of the metre, is based on the special theory of relativity, which
>> affirms
>> our space-time to be a Minkowski space.
>>
>> There seems to be something deictic about 'today', or as older British
>> prefer to spell this, more correctly, 'to-day', and 'tomorrow', or as
>> older
>> Brits prefer to spell this, more correctly, 'to-morrow'. Strictly, to
>> preserve
>> the analogy, yester-day, should be, 'to-yester-day'.
>>
>> It seems that IF 'There's always tomorrow' is tautological, so is
>> "There's
>> always yesterday" (which however, carries a different implicature).
>>
>> Einstein possibly did NOT think that there's always yesterday -- vide
>> "RELATIVITY".
>>
>> We were discussing (or not) the origin of _life_ and, taking one step
>> beyond, there's the further question of the origin of the universe.
>> According to
>> some theories, indeed, 'There's always yesterday' has been refuted. With
>> "There's always yesterday" being refuted, "There's always TODAY" is
>> possibly
>> too  optimistic to be futile?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Speranza
>>
>> ----
>>
>> R. Paul:
>>
>>
>> ‘Absolute, true, and mathematical time, from its own nature,  passes
>> equably without relation to anything external, and thus  without
>> reference to any change or way of measuring of time (e.g., the  hour,
>> day, month, or year).'
>>
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