----- Original Message ----- From: "cblists@xxxxxxxx" <cblists@xxxxxxxx> Hitler and the Holocaust have once again come up in discussion on this list. I am at the moment unable to participate in such discussion, but do offer this not-unrelated article which was brought to my attention on a list devoted to such matters. The article is long (three pages) and controversial - and well worth critically engaging with. _Faustian Bargain_, by Alvin Rosenfeld "The singular horror of the Holocaust is being lost in exchange for enshrining rare moments of inspiration and universal narratives of suffering" ________ There is a more than a grain of truth in this quotation [though I think it wrong to treat the horror of the Holocaust as very "singular"] and indeed some of grain seems to me unavoidable: for example, just as the 'Imagine' ending of 'The Killing Fields' was for me mawkish even tacky, so the colour scenes that ended 'Schindler's List' also seemed to me an avoidable mistake. However, in both these cases I guess the endings would have a calculated and wide appeal to certain 'popular taste', rather than be seen by most as tasteless. (In the case of "Life Is Beautiful" the whole conceit might be guessed to have such calculated, wide appeal rather than be seen by most as tasteless). But there are less avoidable problems: try to conceive a movie (other than documentary) that did not approach a story set against a backdrop of genocide without "enshrining rare moments of inspiration and universal narratives of suffering" or some such? It is not simply the Holocaust but almost any serious topic that is difficult to deal with in the movies without adopting some sort of basis for the story that may appear compromised and even morally lacking. It is as if the movies are simply not to up to it as a form, especially as their paradigm is how an individual confronts _and overcomes_ obstacles and this paradigm is hardly adequate to depict a phenomena like the Holocaust. Try to imagine a war movie with no sense of heroics or a gangster movie with no sense of glamourisation and what have you got - perhaps not much of a movie? Though it is morally suspect to depict war in heroic terms or to glamourise gangsters, perhaps the most we can expect is a film that succeeds despite these somewhat dubious if almost inevitable aspects of its presentation. It may then be almost as predictable, if perhaps less excusable, that museums and the like, in their efforts to draw, engage and entertain a crowd, also will adopt "narratives" in their presentation of material that have similar flaws and limitations. Side-note. Though it is a long time since I sat through it, and while it is a slow burn, I recall thinking "Shoah" a powerful work and one that eschews "enshrining rare moments of inspiration and universal narratives of suffering". While almost any segment of it might not seem very remarkable, even low-key and lacking dramatic intensity, the cumulative affect was striking and even strange. (Lanzmann the spokesperson may be un philosophe manque, however). Donal London ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html