[lit-ideas] The restorative power of Petri's style

From: palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:51:51 +0200
heidegger was caught twice by his wife watching chica chica boom from a
night in rio. Frau Elfride Petri immediately administered a cold enema and
Herr martin went back and wrote another 789 page on being, Being, and
beinG, the text was lost when Komwicky's dog unloaded his dump there


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  The first part of the Malcolm quotation might make it appear that films
> were simply restorative escapism for W - a visual foot spa after a hard day
> at the office. But then..
>
> >He liked American films and detested English ones. He was inclined to
> think that there *could not* be a decent English film. This was connected
> with a great distaste he had for English culture (sic) and mental habits in
> general. He was fond of the film stars Carmen Miranda and Betty Hutton.
> Before he came to visit me in America he demanded that I introduce him to
> Miss Hutton.>
>
> This shows W had an aesthetic reaction against English films and judged
> them as reflecting their wider culture. The sharp divergence in his
> reaction to American and English films is somewhat puzzling as culturally
> many of these are not so far apart (39 Steps could easily be remade in
> Americanese). The view no "decent" English film could be made is even more
> puzzling: for even if one has "distaste" for English culture, that would
> not necessarily show they could make no decent films (- apparently even the
> Nazis made some "decent" films [Truimph of the Will]). It is even more
> puzzling when we consider films like Brief Encounter or the Powell and
> Pressburger films like Col. Blimp or A Matter of Life And Death, which
> are masterpieces of nuance and which question aspects of Englishness in
> almost spiritual terms. What is even more puzzling is that having taken
> against English films as culturally barren, he should extol Carmen Miranda.
> And all of this is even more puzzling if we accept that the difference
> between what can be shown and what can be said is fundamental to W the
> philosopher: for this difference is reflected in the sense of English as
> spoken in England more than in English as spoken in America - it is a
> striking feature of "English English" that it's sense often depends on
> unsaid understandings (including "implicatures") that are not said in 'what
> is said' but shown in how 'what is said' is used. [Indeed, this aspect of
> "English English" may be one of the reasons that W's work holds a
> fascination for English philosophers - why it resonates for them,
> particularly if they are philosophers focused on language.]
>
>
>
> Dnl
> Who is Irish btw
>
>
>   On Sunday, 30 March 2014, 21:22, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   palma:
>
> it is also of great interest that Wittgenstein watched carmen miranda and
>  Parmenides liked more than anything else spike jonze, while Ockam watched
> only the Godzilla series
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
>    Wittgenstein was always exhausted by his lectures. He was also
> revolted by them. He often felt disgusted by what he had said and with
> himself. Often he would rush off to a cinema immediately after the class
> had ended. As the members of the class began to move their chairs out of
> the room he might look imploringly at a friend and say in a low tone,
> 'Could you go to a flick?' On the way to the cinema Wittgenstein would buy
> a bun or a cold pork pie and munch it as he watched the film. He insisted
> on sitting in the very first row of seats, so the screen would fill his
> entire field of vision, and his mind would be turned away from the thoughts
> of the lecture and his feeling of revulsion. Once he whispered to me, 'This
> is like a shower bath!' He leaned tensely forward in his seat and rarely
> took his eyes off the screen. He hardly ever commented on the episodes of
> the film and did not like his companions to do so. He wished to become
> totally absorbed in the film no matter how trivial or artificial it was in
> order to free his mind temporarily from the philosophical thoughts that
> tortured and exhausted him.
>
> [break for easier reading in email; no break in original]
>
> He liked American films and detested English ones. He was inclined to
> think that there *could not* be a decent English film. This was connected
> with a great distaste he had for English culture (sic) and mental habits in
> general. He was fond of the film stars Carmen Miranda and Betty Hutton.
> Before he came to visit me in America he demanded that I introduce him to
> Miss Hutton.
>
> Norman Malcolm, *Wittgenstein, a Memoir*, pp. 27-28.
>
>  ----------------------------------------
>
>  Robert Paul
>
>
>
>


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