In a message dated 5/10/2014 7:13:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes: Well, it is part of the explanation. The Northern AMerica might have been relatively scarcely populated. The diseases played a part in that, but so did the destruction of buffaloes, the introduction of alcohol, forced migrations, and outright killing. --- commenting on Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: "This also explains why the British had such an easy time colonizing North America. The Amerindians had been decimated by disease. The New World was largely empty." --- For the record, some notes on the myth of the noble savage which may apply! The Amerindians were decimated by disease but the spirit lingered on! Cheers, Speranza --- Notes and references to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage Fryd, Vivien Green (1995). "Rereading the Indian in Benjamin West's "Death of General Wolfe"". American Art 9 (1): 75. JSTOR 3109196. Grace Moore, "Reappraising Dickens's 'Noble Savage'", The Dickensian 98:458 (2002): 236-243. Moore speculates that Dickens, although himself an abolitionist, was motivated by a wish to differentiate himself from what he believed was the feminine sentimentality and bad writing of female philanthropists and writers such as Harriet Beecher Stowe, with whom he, as a reformist writer, was often associated. Locke, Hobbs, and Confusion's Masterpiece, Ross Harrison, (Cambridge University Press, 2003), p. 70. "Montaigne's political and religious context" in The Cambridge Companion to Montaigne (Cambridge, 2005), p. 14 (cf. also Tom Conley, "The Essays and the New World" p. 80 in the same volume.) Essay "Of Cannibals" Terence Cave, How to Read Montaigne (London: Granta Books, 2007), pp. 81-82. David El Kenz,"Massacres During the Wars of Religion", 2008 Anthony Pagden, The Fall of the Natural Man: the American Indian and the origins of comparative ethnology. Cambridge Iberian and Latin American Studies.(Cambridge University Press, 1982) The Myth of the Noble Savage, Ter Ellingson, (University of California, 2001), note p. 390. (OED 'Savage', A,I,3) -- (OED 'Savage' A, I, 3) -- (Ellingson [2001], p. 377) -- (Ellingson [2001], p. 389). The European Mind, Paul Hazard (1680-1715) (Cleveland, Ohio: Meridian Books [1937], 1969), pp. 14-24 and passim Doyle R. Quiggle, “Ibn Tufayl's Hayy Ibn Yaqdan in New England: A Spanish-Islamic Tale in Cotton Mather's Christian Philosopher?” Arizona Quarterly: A Journal of American Literature, Culture, and Theory, 64: 2 (Summer 2008): 1-32. In 1859, journalist Horace Greeley, famous for his advice to "Go west, young man", used "Lo, The Poor Indian" as the title for a letter written from Colorado: "I have learned to appreciate better than hitherto, and to make more allowance for, the dislike, aversion, contempt wherewith Indians are usually regarded by their white neighbors, and have been since the days of the Puritans. It needs but little familiarity with the actual, palpable aborigines to convince anyone that the poetic Indian -- the Indian of Cooper and Longfellow -- is only visible to the poet's eye. To the prosaic observer, the average Indian of the woods and prairies is a being who does little credit to human nature -- a slave of appetite and sloth, never emancipated from the tyranny of one animal passion save by the more ravenous demands of another. As I passed over those magnificent bottoms of the Kansas, which form the reservations of the Delawares, Potawatamies, etc., constituting the very best corn-lands on earth, and saw their owners sitting around the doors of their lodges at the height of the planting season and in as good, bright planting weather as sun and soil ever made, I could not help saying, “These people must die out — there is no help for them. God has given this earth to those who will subdue and cultivate it, and it is vain to struggle against His righteous decree.” --"Lo! The Poor Indian!”, letter dated June 12, 1859, from An Overland Journey from New York to San Francisco in the Summer of 1859 by Horace Greeley (1860) During the Indian wars of the late 19th century, white settlers, to whom Indians were “an inferior breed of men”, referred mockingly to the Indians as “Lo” or “Mr. Lo,” a deliberate misreading of Pope's famous passage. The term was also “a sarcastic reference to those eastern humanitarians whose idea of the Indian was so at variance with the frontiersman's bloodthirsty savage. "The Leavenworth, Kansas, Times and Conservative, for example, commented indignantly on the story of Thomas Alderdice, whose wife was captured and killed by Cheyennes: 'We wish some philanthropists who talk about civilizing the Indians, could have heard this unfortunate and almost broken-hearted man tell his story. We think they would at least have wavered a little in their opinion of the Lo family'", quoted by Louise Barnett, in Touched by Fire: the Life, Death, and Mythic Afterlife of George Armstrong Custer (University of Nebraska Press [1986], 2006), pp. 107-108. François de Salignac de la Mothe-Fénelon, Encounter with the Mandurians, in Chapter IX of Telemachus, son of Ulysses, translated by Patrick Riley (Cambridge University Press, [1699] 1994), pp. 130-31. This didactic novel (arguably the first "boys' book") by the Archbishop of Cambrai, tutor to the seven-year-old grandson of Louis XIV, was perhaps the most internationally popular book of the 18th and early 19th centuries, a favorite of Montesquieu, Rousseau, Herder, Jefferson, Emerson, and countless others. Patrick Riley's translation is based on that of Tobias Smollett, 1776 (op cit p. xvii). For the distinction between "hard" and "soft" primitivism see A. O, Lovejoy and G. Boas, Primitivism and Related Ideas in Antiquity, Baltimore, I, 1935. Erwin Panofsky, "Et in Arcadia Ego", in Meaning in the Visual Arts (New York: Doubleday, 1955). Tobias Smollett, The Expedition of Humphry Clinker ([1771] London: Penguin Books, 1967), p. 292. Interestingly, One of the characters in Smollett's Humphry Clinker, Lieutenant Lismahago, is a kind of ludicrous noble savage. A proud and irascible Scotsman of good family and advancing years, Lismahago has been so poorly requited by the government for his services in the Canadian wars that he is planning to return to Canada to live out his days with his Native American common-law wife, in squalor but with more honor and decency than would be possible as a pauper at home. Leviathan -- See Paul Hazard, The European Mind (1680-1715) [1937], 1969), pp. 13-14, and passim. J.B. Bury (2008). The Idea of Progress: an Inquiry into its Origins and Growth (second ed.). New York: Cosimo Press. p. 111. Jeremy Jennings (May 25, 2012). "Reason's Revenge: How a small group of radical philosophers made a world revolution and lost control of it to 'Rouseauist fanatics'" (magazine). Times Literary Supplement (London, England): 3– 4. ISSN 0040-7895. OCLC 1767078. Benjamin Franklin (1982). "Chapter 5: The Philosopher as Savage". Forgotten Founders: Benjamin Franklin, the Iroquois, and the Rationale for the American Revolution. Ipswich, Massachusetts: Gambit, Inc. ISBN 9780876451113. OCLC 8115189. Lovejoy (1923, 1948 p, 21. Voltaire was no believer in human equality: "It is notorious that Voltaire objected to the education of laborers' children" – Peter Gay, The Enlightenment: The Science of Freedom (New York: W.W. Norton, [1969] 1977), p. 36. See Ter Ellingson (2001). In a recent review of a book discussing Steven Pinker, Peter Gay writes "As far as the noble savage is concerned, that phrase is from Dryden and does not appear in Rousseau’s writings. In the years I taught the history of political theory at Columbia to a sizable class of undergraduates, I would offer students a hundred dollars if they could find “Noble Savage” anywhere in Rousseau. I never had to pay up" (Peter Gay, "Breeding Is Fundamental: Jenny Davidson reflects on Enlightenment ideas about human perfectibility", Book Forum [April/May 2009]). Originally published in Modern Philology, Vol. 21, No. 2 (Nov., 1923):165-186, Lovejoy's essay was reprinted in Essays in the History of Ideas. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, [1948, 1955, and 1960], is also available on Jstor. See also Victor Gourevitch, "Nothing in Rousseau's account of men in the pre-political state of nature justifies calling them "noble savages," in Rousseau: The Discourses and Other Early Political Writings, Victor Gourevitch, Editor (Cambridge Texts in the History of Political Thought [1997] 2004). (Lovejoy (1960), p. 23) Lovejoy attributes the invention of the term to Turgot in 1750, but, according to him, it was Rousseau who gave it wide currency. See Lovejoy (1960), p. 24, Rousseau, Discourse on the Origins of Inequality, as quoted in Lovejoy (1960), p. 27. "Rousseau's theory of human nature here, in short, is identical with that of Hobbes", Lovejoy (1960), p. 27. See Lovejoy (1960), p. 31. ^ Lovejoy (1960), p. 36. See reference to Frederick E. Hoxie's review of Ter Ellingson's Myth of the Noble Savage in note 32 below. For an account of Dickens's article see Moore, "Reappraising Dickens's 'Noble Savage'" (2002): 236-243. Lillian Nayder, “The Cannibal, the Nurse, and the Cook in Dickens’s ‘The Frozen Deep'”, Victorian Literature and Culture 19 (1991):1. See Lillian Nayder (1991), p. 3 Nadyer notes: In their order of appearance, Dickens’s articles are: 'The Lost Arctic Voyagers,' (December 2, 1854); 'The Lost Arctic Voyagers' (December 9, 1854); 'The Lost English Sailors' (February 14, 1857); and 'Official Patriotism' (April 25, 1857). Dr. Rae’s articles are 'The Lost Arctic Voyagers' (December 23, 1854); 'Dr. Rae’s Report to the Secretary of the Admiralty' (December 30, 1854); and 'Sir John Franklin and His Crews' (February 3, 1855)". (Nayder [1991], p. 7). 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