Eric Yost wrote: "Pawns do have standardized initial locations, from a to h along the second rank on each player's side of the board." That may or may not be the case but the question was whether one could use the concept of a pawn without using a name. Clearly the above description uses a name. My argument is that there can be no 'standardized initial locations' without using a name. Eric continues: "The rules are the moves. It's what you do with the rules that are the strategy and tactics of chess." Rules are not moves. Rules determine what constitutes a move in chess. Moving a pawn backgrounds is a move but not a move in chess. There is no move for winning a game though there is a rule concerning what constitutes a winning move. Eric again: "I can easily imagine someone gesturing across the second rank--say to an illiterate deaf person--and indicating the moves possible. Similarly when the deaf person made a mistake in learning the moves, one would pat his or her hand, gesture "no," and indicate the possible legal moves. By repetition, the deaf person could became a strong and competent player without having a single name for any of the pieces, or without even having names for special cases like "en passant," "pawn promotion," "queenside castling," etc. Now this illiterate deaf person could teach other illiterate deaf people how to play chess because he or she had internalized the rules of playing chess." A name, though, need not be something that must be heard or read. Somehow the illiterate deaf person must be able to identify the different pieces, understood according to the rules of playing chess, regardless of their shape or position on the board. It is my argument that such an identification is the function of naming. That is, a name is not a tag we hang on a concept but rather a constitutive element of the use of that concept. It is the functioning of a name that allows the pawn to be a pawn even after it has been moved from its starting position. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html