McCreery asks: >Must the word be literate? I don't think so. Again, the Angles shared words, but hardly marked them (on wood). When they finally felt it was high time to 'become literate', the symbols they came up with were modifications of the Roman alphabet, as they saw it displayed in places like Bath in Somerset. ---- Cheers, JL From the OED: The original runic alphabet dates from at least the second or third century, and was formed by modifying the letters of the Roman or Greek alphabet so as to facilitate cutting them upon wood or stone. [1685 _W. NICOLSON_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-n.html#w-nicolson) in Phil. Trans. XV. 1293 We are sufficiently assured, that the Heathen Saxons did also make use of these Runæ. 1686 see _RIMESTOCK_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/cgi/crossref?query_type=word&queryword=rune&first=1&max_to_show=10&sort_type=alpha&search_id=Toa8-vcG UWR-18555&result_place=1&xrefword=rimestock) .] 1690 _TEMPLE_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-t.html#temple) Ess., Poetry 37 Runes, was properly the Name of the antient Gothick Letters or Characters. 1705 Phil. Trans. XXV. 2058 He thinks it remarkable, that Magog is there mention'd Inventer of the Runes. 1770 _PERCY_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-p2.html#percy) Mallet's Northern Antiq. I. 375 The noxious, or as they called them, the bitter runes, were employed to bring various evils on their enemies. 1848 _LYTTON_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-l2.html#lytton) Harold I. i, Her pale hand seemed tracing letters, like runes, in the air. 1851 _D. WILSON_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-w3.html#d-wilson) Preh. Ann. (1863) I. 4 Intelligible inscriptions engraven in Anglo Saxon Runes. 1851 _D. WILSON_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-w3.html#d-wilson) Preh. Ann. (1863) II. IV. ii. 238 The inscriptions on the sculptured or Memorial Stones..include..the Ogham or Celtic Runes. 1883 _I. TAYLOR_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-t.html#i-taylor) Alphabet 201 An adaptation or survival of the ‘Slavonic Runes’ , the existence of which is however entirely hypothetical. 1883 _MORFILL_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-m4.html#morfill) Slavonic Lit. i. 23 The view that the Slavs had runes is based upon a passage in the writings of the Monk Khrabr. 1937 _J. R. R. TOLKIEN_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-t2.html#j-r-r-tolkien) Hobbit i. 30 Look at the map..and you will see there the runes in red. 1948 _D. DIRINGER_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-d2.html#d-diringer) Alphabet II. v. 314 The monumental inscriptions are written in a runic character, termed Kök Turki runes. 1954 _J. R. R. TOLKIEN_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-t2.html#j-r-r-tolkie n) Fellowship of Ring v. 339 They were written by many different hands, in runes, both of Moria and of Dale, and here and there in Elvish script. 1958 Everyman's Encycl. (ed. 4) IX. 461/1 Orkhon Inscriptions (also known as Siberian, Early Turki, Pre-Islamic Turki or Kök Turki Runes) are the earliest epigraphical monuments written in Turki. 1961 M. SAVILL tr. E. Doblhoffer's Voices in Stone ix. 289 Babinger sent a photograph..to the decipherer of the Old Turkish runes, Vilhelm Thomsen. 1968 U. K. LE GUIN Wizard of Earthsea iv. 67 He studied the Further Runes and the Runes of Éa, which are used in the Great Spells. a1973 _J. R. R. TOLKIEN_ (http://0-dictionary.oed.com.csulib.ctstateu.edu/help/bib/oed2-t2.html#j-r-r-tolkien) Silmarillion (1977) 322 Cirth, the Runes, first devised by Daeron of Doriath. J. L. Speranza, Esq. Town: Calle Arenales 2021, Piso 5, St. 8, La Recoleta C1124AAE, Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 11 4824 4253 Fax 54 221 425 9205 Country: St. Michael Hall, Calle 58, No. 611, La Plata B1900 BPY Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tel. 54 221 425 7817 Fax 54 221 425 9205 http://www.stmichaels.com.ar jls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx jlsperanza@xxxxxxx http://www.netverk/~jls.htm ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com