I propose a thorough chapter by chapter examination and discussion of Heideggar's "Being and Time, w/ all participating philosophers keeping in mind that any new thoughts they have on the subject might be seen by other people who have access to the web. The last thing we want to use the internet for is exchange of new ideas. I further propose a chapter by chapter examination of War and Peace for the literary members of the list, w/ the above stated conditions. Or, we could start with "It was a dark and stormy night...." Julie Krueger (oh my god this might be read on the archives by someone. perhaps I should assume a new identity. Sponge Bob!) ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Purpose of the "Literature and Ideas" List with the Digest and Archive Date: 7/29/06 5:28:51 AM Central Daylight Time From: _frances.kelly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:frances.kelly@xxxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) , _ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: Frances with thanks to listers... This online list called "Literature and Ideas" is seemingly free and open to the internet public at large who wish to enter its portal, and with little invite or limit. There is clearly however a stated guideline of rules for this list as issued by its owners and managers. The purpose of the list, in regard to those rules relevant or pertinent to my interests and as understood in rough summary by me, is that it should be used responsibly as a learned forum to discuss topical ideas in relation to "published" literary writings, where such literature is deemed to be in the form of both fictional and nonfictional works. The broad literary ideas under discussion could presumably be "within" the writings or "about" the writings, where such writings are held to variously be statements in texts or narratives in documents or discourses in manuscripts. Many of the messages posted however often appear atopical and even trivial or silly to me. This makes the storage of messages in the list archive bulky, and the retrieval of messages from the list archive for reasons of say research very cumbersome. This thorny issue no doubt has likely surfaced here in the past before my time, but in light of recent flows it may justify resurrection. Without suggesting any kind of censored policing of "appropriate" messages posted to the list, some sort of voluntary process or protocol might nonetheless now be warranted, at least to serve the interests of those listers who may wish to follow a somewhat narrower threaded path when discussing topical subjects or special themes in keeping with the stated purpose of the list as to what is acceptable. This list after all is a valued resource, and ought not be disused or abused or misused, for reasons that for example would be clearly outside either the general purpose of the list or any special topic on the list that is trying to stay within that purpose. My fear is that my stance in this regard may be overstating the case, but then perhaps not. In any event, any suggestion or correction to this position would be welcome. My motive here is not to bypass or overstep the list authorities, but to be better informed by listers who might share my particular scholarly interests in "sign" theory. Those interests partly include the comparison of angloamerican philology and semiotics with francoeuropean semiology and structuralism, and the application of such "sign" theory to the field of "literature" both as humanal art in the fictional and philosophic manner, and as nonart in the technical or scientific manner. Other lists such as the Dewey List and the Peirce List and the Aesthetics List do of course provide some satisfaction. Another problem is whether learned scholars in academia are prepared to share their coveted ideas in websites on the internet that are accessed virtually at will by the public; but that is a further topic, and there is certainly enough in this present message to discuss. Frances Kelly, City of Toronto ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html