In a message dated 1/13/2013 11:40:59 P.M. UTC-02, profdritchie@xxxxxxxxx writes: Ellsworth Prouty Conkle was the provocation this missive. ... I ask for no other." I'd like to find a copy. The web only gives me E. P. Conkle, "Prologue to Glory." --- Surely as per subject-line, alla Alice. If glory = a nice knock-down argument. What is, for Humpty, the meaning of the line, in the anthem, "send him victorious, happy and GLORIOUS". In "The Singing Bpurgeois", there is this apt reference to 'glorious' "The traditional court composer's commemoration of a victory would be a work like Handel's 'Dettingen Te Deum', written to celebrate the fortunate outcome of the last great charge in British history led by the king himself, at the battle of Dettingen in 1743 (his horse having accidentally bolted in the direction of the enemy). Now, Handel also had an alternative means of response to national conflict and chose to celebrate the victory over the forces of feudalism at Culloden, in an oratorio, Judas Maccabeus (1746). Prince Charlie was the grandson of the dethroned monarch James II, and the focal point of pro-Stuart sympathy among the aristocracy." "The true patriot was called upon to reject feudalism in the cause of establishing a middle-class democracy. It is ironic that an old song revitalized for the cause in the 1740s, 'God Save the King', probably originally referred to 'the king over the water' (still suggested by 'Send him victorious', and in an early version the epithet 'true-born')." Etc. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html