Geary may have missed some of the posts by Helm, et al, discussing: Helm (to his dog): Are you going out, or not? --- It may be argued that 'or other' plays a similarly 'idiosyncratic' role: In a message dated 10/9/2011 12:53:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx) quotes my reference to: a >>Memphis idioticon and >>the idioms of Memphis. >>the idioms of a particular genius, or other." --- and asks: >Other what? His point becomes clear in his signature line: >uncontested [genius] of Memphis. with the implicature that there is NO other. My answer would be that --- theoretically, "or other" can be added legitimately to ANYTHING you say. You should try practicing this idiom more often: "How much is the job?" ---- [Submit price], or other." A Google search on "or other" gives a link to an escort agency, which helps. ----- "or other" strictly, in Anglo-Saxon is: other other. which some dub otiose. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html