-----Original Message----- From: Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 4, 2004 1:12 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: OT: online dictionaries At 03:59 PM 8/4/2004, you wrote: >I'm not sure that 'Putsch' means 'an argument, spat, or disagreement,' >which is >what PS was looking for. It usually means 'coup,' as in the failed Putsch >attempt in Austria in 1934. > >Waiting for correction from Mainz, I remain, It does mean "coup" and that IS the word I was looking for. If anyone is interested, the reason I asked is because I watched a movie called "The Grey Zone" over the weekend. It was about a bunch of what were called Kommandos at a group of 4 nazi death camps during WWII. Each group of kommandos were Jews who operated the ovens and ran the gas chambers in exchange for food/drink/comfort privileges and, in varying degrees, approximately 4 extra months of life. In any case, in one scene, a doctor (who was himself a compromised Jew who assisted Dr. Mengele) was arguing with the director of the camp about the Naziism and the commander was talking about the need for one race so that there would be no more wars. The doctor replied, "but you already have wars within your pure race". The commander said "those are not wars, they are putsches" and goes on about the semantic difference and the reason that there were two different words etc., but he never did SAY what the word actually meant. All I could glean was that, in the commander's estimation, a "putsch" was nowhere near as serious. I guess I was sort of right, but not nearly. This is ironic because a "coup" by the longest-living elite 12th Kommando unit managed to rise up and destroy a lot of the crematoria and stick a major wrench in the Nazi's plans for one of the most destructive of the camps. A.A. When Gorbachev was ousted out of power it was described as a putsch. That sounds like what the commander in the movie was describing. Less than a war, more than a disagreement. Andy Amago Paul ########## Paul Stone pas@xxxxxxxx Kingsville, ON, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html