In his Phenomonology of Spirit Hegel writes in subsection 109 "With this appeal to universal experience we may be permitted to anticipate how the case stands in the practical sphere. In this respect we can tell those who assert the truth and certainty of reality sense-objects that they should go back to the most elementary school of wisdom, viz. the ancient Eleusinian Mysteries of Ceres and Bacchus, and that they have still to learn the secret meaning of the eating of bread and the drinking of wine. For he who is initiated into these Mysteries not only comes to doubt the being of sensuous things, but to despair of it; in part he brings about the nothingness of such things himself in his dealings with them, and in part he sees them reduce themselves to nothingness." Does anyone (seriously) know what this bit about ancient Eleusinian Mysteries of Ceres and Bacchus and the secret meaning of the eating of bread and the drinking of wine is about? And why in learning this "secret meaning" one comes to doubt the being of sensuous things and to despair of them? Erin ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html