Ursula: But the German flyer's speech was written by our side, Lawrence. Words put in the mouth... Lawrence: So what? Fascism isn't a big mystery. Anyone familiar with it can put fascist arguments into the mouth of a character. Maybe I shouldn't assume so much. I assume that everyone knows what Fascism is, and that everyone can see that Islamism is a Fascist doctrine. I also assume a certain knowledge of American history, especially that all Americans (essentially) were once Liberal Democrats. With the advent of Marx something new enter America and now Marxist-influenced socialism has become Liberalism and the traditional Liberal-Democracy has become Conservatism. I assume everyone knows that but perhaps not. My poem was not in celebration of Mike's birthday, just a circling around this problem of why some people take such an . . . interesting turn. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ursula Stange Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:51 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Mrs. Miniver But the German flyer's speech was written by our side, Lawrence. Words put in the mouth... Aa poem written by Jan Struther, the writer of Mrs. Miniver: /Freedom (by Jan Struther) / Now heaven be thanked, I am out of love again! I have been long a slave, and now am free; I have been tortured, and am eased of pain; I have been blind, and now my eyes can see; I have been lost, and now my way lies plain; I have been caged, and now I hold the key; I have been mad, and now at last am sane; I am wholly I that was but half of me. So a free man, my dull proud path I plod, Who, tortured, blind, mad, caged, was once a God. I hope you liked that, Mike. It's your birthday for another ten minutes... U. Lawrence Helm wrote: > In one scene Mrs. Miniver finds a wounded German pilot in her yard. He > produces a Luger and insists that she feed him and give him a coat to > cover his uniform. She reproaches him for Germany's killing of women > and children and he threatens to do the same to England. At which she > slaps him on the face. > > The German's fascist speech reminded me of the Islamists speeches I've > read. Islamism is after all an a fascist tyranny in its ideology. > Francis Fukuyama believes Liberal-Democracy shall defeat all competing > forms of government and society, but Fascism is alive and well in the > form of Islamism. Islamists promise to do to us what the German flyer > promised to do to Mrs. Miniver. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html