[lit-ideas] Re: Mrs. Miniver

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:12:10 -0800

Ursula: But the German flyer's speech was written by our side, Lawrence.
Words put in the mouth...

Lawrence:  So what?  Fascism isn't a big mystery.  Anyone familiar with it
can put fascist arguments into the mouth of a character.  

Maybe I shouldn't assume so much.  I assume that everyone knows what Fascism
is, and that everyone can see that Islamism is a Fascist doctrine.  I also
assume a certain knowledge of American history, especially that all
Americans (essentially) were once Liberal Democrats.  With the advent of
Marx something new enter America and now Marxist-influenced socialism has
become Liberalism and the traditional Liberal-Democracy has become
Conservatism.  I assume everyone knows that but perhaps not.  

My poem was not in celebration of Mike's birthday, just a circling around
this problem of why some people take such an . . . interesting turn.

Lawrence



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But the German flyer's speech was written by our side, Lawrence. Words 
put in the mouth...

Aa poem written by Jan Struther, the writer of Mrs. Miniver:

/Freedom (by Jan Struther) /

Now heaven be thanked, I am out of love again!
I have been long a slave, and now am free;
I have been tortured, and am eased of pain;
I have been blind, and now my eyes can see;
I have been lost, and now my way lies plain;
I have been caged, and now I hold the key;
I have been mad, and now at last am sane;
I am wholly I that was but half of me.
So a free man, my dull proud path I plod,
Who, tortured, blind, mad, caged, was once a God.

I hope you liked that, Mike. It's your birthday for another ten minutes...
U.

Lawrence Helm wrote:

> In one scene Mrs. Miniver finds a wounded German pilot in her yard. He 
> produces a Luger and insists that she feed him and give him a coat to 
> cover his uniform. She reproaches him for Germany's killing of women 
> and children and he threatens to do the same to England. At which she 
> slaps him on the face.
>
> The German's fascist speech reminded me of the Islamists speeches I've 
> read. Islamism is after all an a fascist tyranny in its ideology. 
> Francis Fukuyama believes Liberal-Democracy shall defeat all competing 
> forms of government and society, but Fascism is alive and well in the 
> form of Islamism. Islamists promise to do to us what the German flyer 
> promised to do to Mrs. Miniver.
>
>

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