> [Original Message] > From: Richard Koenigsberg, Ph.D. <libraryofsocialscience@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 3/8/2005 11:47:51 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Lecture on Civilization and Self-Destruction > > > In waging war, nation-states require that soldiers give over their bodies > and souls in the name of defending the sacred ideal. The Holocaust was > ultimately another side of this terrible equation, in which Jews, too, were > compelled to give over their bodies and souls to the vengeful nation-state. > > A.A. It's an interesting idea, that victims are the flip side of persecutors. My question would be why do we attach ourselves to that which harms us. Is it a need for ideals or is it the need to do what we're told? Andy Amago ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html