Hmmm.....here's a link to a pic of the mastiffs my acquaintance has -- http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.breederretriever.com/photopost/data/520/medium/mastiff1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.breederretriever.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/128&h=300&w=400&sz=19&hl=en&start=8&sig2=CtMG3T5OH0qC195WRXH5lA&tbnid=BXg6D-lcvGNpSM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&ei=lG-2RpuuC57UeuH7pK0F&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmastiff%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG I wasn't able to access the link you sent, Judy -- it simply kept saying page not found... Julie Krueger wondering now how bulldogs, mastiffs, and pit bulls are inter-related. On 8/5/07, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > A Bullmastiff is an ancient cross between the English Mastiff, like > > the one you saw, and a Bulldog. It isn't supposed to weigh 200 > > pounds as one of Rhames Bullmastiff's does but only 130 pounds. It > > isn't supposed to be as high at the withers as an English Mastiff. > > It was developed to knock a poacher down and hold him for the > > game keeper. > > 'English Mastiff' is another name for a plain old Mastiff, which is, > as Lawrence says, a bit larger than a Bullmastiff. (The origin of the > English Mastiff is simply 'antiquity,' while Bullmastiffs date only from > the 1800s.) Any Bullmastiff that weighs 200 lbs. should go on a > diet. There are numerous mastiffs: French, Argentine, Brazilian, > Spanish, and Neapolitan (Mastino Neapolitano); most of them were bred > for guarding, hunting, or dog fighting. The Encyclopedia of the Dog > says that the Neapolitano is a 'superb drooler.' > > Rhames is said to have Bullmastiffs, and a Brazilian Mastiff (Fila > Brasileiro), of which he is especially fond because these dogs had been > 'slave catchers'; he is embracing this dog, 'Kong,' at > > http://www.usmagazine.com/second_ving_rhames_pos > > The dogs that attacked and killed Diane Whipple outside her San > Francisco apartment in 2001 were initially described as Mastiffs, > Bullmastiffs, and English Mastiffs. They turned out to be Preso > Canerios, 'Canary Island Dogs,' although one site says that they were > a 'rare cross' between Presos and Bullmastiffs. Reporters and the > police are seldom dog experts, and often dog owners are not themselves > sure of which breeds they own. > > Kant always wanted a dog but he believed the leash laws in Königsberg > denied dogs their autonomy and settled for a parakeet. > > Robert Paul > and the aging Terriers > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >