>Judy, >By cherry pick do you mean the following? >Employment-Based Immigrants. Up to 140,000 visas in five preference categories, Yes. I make the point because the socio-economic position of US Muslims is often contrasted with that of Muslims in Europe, without its being pointed out that Muslims likely to do well economically are the ones admitted to the US. (And "integration" is used loosely.) LH>I thought it would be understood that in referring to the European LH>immigration situation I wasn't intending to mean that every Muslim LH>without exception in every European nation without exception LH>does thus and so It was, but I still thought you were overgeneralizing LH>However I doubt that any nation that has "istan" tacked to its capital is LH>likely to be as squeaky clean as you suggest: ("Londonistan" -- oh God, it's Melanie Phillips. She's so *stupid*. ) Squeaky clean? I said JE>The UK is one of the most integrated countries in the world, with no ghettos JE>and no-go areas of the kind seen in the US. -- in response to your tra-la-ing on about integration in the US... Muslims are less integrated than other minorities and they are socio-economically disadvantaged as a group; I assumed that was known (and see the data on the 7/7 people). No claim to be squeaky clean there. I'm interested, Lawrence, to see you laud US "tolerance" of Muslims (see also the piece from which I quoted) at one moment and citing La Phillips, rabid opponent of "multiculturalism", the very next post Judy Evans, Cardiff