There is a chapter in the following book that demonstrates that the French Resistance engaged in the sort of "terror" that Simon apparently condemns in the Irgun: <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/037550608X/102-9574413-8873717?v=glance&n= 283155> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/037550608X/102-9574413-8873717?v=glance&n=2 83155 Also, here is a paragraph from an article describing certain things the French did: The French resistance fighters blew up bridges, derailed trains, directed the British in the bombing of German troop trains, kidnapped and killed German army officers, and ambushed German troops. They took no prisoners, but rather killed any German soldiers who surrendered to them, sometimes mutilating their bodies for good measure. The Nazis referred to them as "terrorists." From http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Natzweiler/History/FrenchResistance.html Do you think shooting prisoners is okay, Simon? How about mutilating bodies? Lawrence _____ From: Lawrence Helm [mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:33 AM To: 'lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: [lit-ideas] Re: Islam, Israel and the Code of the West Right. I forgot the Leftist Party line. French good. Israel bad. _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Ward Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:14 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Islam, Israel and the Code of the West No. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Islam, Israel and the Code of the West Was the French Resistance, who did similar things, a terrorist organization? Lawrence _____