Thought this was interesting. http://www.jom-emit.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Amago To: lit-ideas Sent: 8/11/2005 11:19:16 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] War, sort of I first learned about systems theory in a management class many years ago, from whence family systems is a subset. Eric Berne's defining the roles that family members play certainly seems a part of family-as-a-system theory. I can't find an actual founder for family systems. A quick google did turn up these links. I do believe that macro humans are a reflection of micro humans; what we do in families we do in society (the hero, the helper, the scapegoat, etc.). Dawkins' meme, the self-perpetuating unit of something, whether genes or ideas, would have a niche here somewhere too. An argument can be made that most of what we believe are memes. The bottom line is, war is multi-facted. Like an iceberg, most of the need for it is hidden below the surface. http://www.geocities.com/a_lonely0us/publications/systems_theory.htm http://web.pdx.edu/~cbcm/CFS410U/FamilySystemsTheory.pdf