[lit-ideas] Re: Eric Hobsbawm dies, aged 95

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  • Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:11:36 +0200

On 3-Oct-12, at 5:27 PM, Donal McEvoy wrote:


"Most startlingly, Hobsbawm gave Stalin the credit for the post war “miracles” experienced in the West. Soviet communism, he argued, had provided its antagonist “with the incentive — fear — to reform itself” and “by establishing the popularity of economic planning, furnished it with some of the procedures for its reform.” In a television interview, Hobsbawm was asked whether, for such an accomplishment to take place, “the loss of fifteen, twenty million people might have been justified?”

“Yes”, replied Hobsbawm."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/9579079/Eric-Hobsbawm.html

Thanks for this, Donal.

In a recent conversation about verb tenses, my interlocutor decried constructions such as that 'might have been justified?' Why did the interviewer not ask simply and straightforwardly, 'Were the deaths of fifteen to twenty million people justified?' (Would Hobsbawm's answer have been different?)

The link Donal provides leads to further comment on Hobsbawm.

Michael Burleigh finds Hobsbawm "deceitful" and his eminence an indication of " the bovine complacency with which, since Mrs Thatcher, the Conservatives have allowed such dubious figures licence to dominate the soft culture of the BBC and our universities."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9579092/Eric-Hobsbawm-A-believer-in-the-Red-utopia-to-the-very-end.html#

Allan Massie finds Hobsbawm "more complicated and ... admirable than Michael Burleigh believes" and recommends Hobsbawm's autobiography INTERESTING TIMES as "a good starting point for anyone who wants to understand him – or indeed to understand the ideological turmoil and complexity of the 20th century."

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/allanmassie/100066734/understanding-eric-hobsbawm/

Chris Bruce
Kiel, Germany
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