[lit-ideas] Do Animals "Perceive"?

  • From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:18:13 EDT

In a message dated 7/6/2009 10:58:12 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time, 
pastone@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Burkas are designed  to
eliminate a woman's peripheral vision so that she must turn her head
to  look at something. This gives the man full information about where
his wife  (i.e. property) is looking. WOW, those male oppressors are
diabolical  shitheads. Of course, the whole thing may be an old wives
tale --  
----

Also for horses. You put things so that you control their  peripheral 
vision.

I was reading Grice on "The senses of the Martians".  This was an early 
paper, 1962, before the Moon was walked. He imagines these  Martians who have 
two pairs of eyes ('one eye too many', he writes).  


0              0

o              o

/

U


With the upper 'eyes', things x (i.e. 'look') blue to them.
With  the lower 'eyes', things y (i.e. 'look-2) blue to them.

And, they say,  'there is a world of difference between a thing x-ing blue 
and the same thing  y-ing blue.

Coady, in his reply to Grice, wonders if the Martians may be  said to have 
'superfluous' eyes? Grice says, "no".

In later years, Grice  became more and more of a serious student of 
etymology and evolution theory. The  fish, for example, we expect, _see_ things 
(as 
we do). 

Bats can 'see'  with their ears, Grice says. But Coady notes that this 
'aural' vision is not so  good. "A bat will colide, almost often fatally, if a 
building is built on his  way to his cave -- their 'ears' don't help them 
_see_ new  things.

----

The attribution of 'perception states' to animals is  blurred by their 
inability to speak. 

Cheers,

J. L.  Speranza
Buenos Aires, Argentina  

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