Lawrence Helm wrote: "Gauchet is not a Christian but he understands Liberal Democracy to have arisen out of Christianity. It could not have arisen in any other way, but now that it has arisen, we can do without Christianity if we choose to." Gauchet's position is a bit more nuanced than the above might suggest. Gauchet is honest enough of an Hegelian to acknowledge that, in true dialectical form, while religion has been overcome by science, the role religion played in people's lives can't be dismissed. What was formerly accomplished by religion has to be taken up in our post-religious world, but Gauchet admits that he can't yet see the historical form this aufhebung will take. And surely this modesty is also helpful when reflecting on the world, whether one is in Jena or the U.S. Perhaps we are not best served by adopting a politics of identity (i.e. West, Left, Neo-cons) but rather a ship of state model that sees us adjusting to the winds that are blowing. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html