french fries=chips chips=crisps is where we begin and then there are all the other questions, about which came first, which will require attention later. Meanwhile the Old Block--me--must hie himself off to the mall to help choose a dress suitable for a Bat Mitzvah. David Ritchie Portland, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html