Thank Uwe, The comments of water leaking in the patio doors reminded me that in Florida horizontal rain during hurricanes causes a lot of damage from indoor flooding. I think a drain near the door is called for, to remove water before it accumulates. The doors would be under the solar panels acting as awnings, but that is not much protection. Recessingg the doors not only adds more protection from driven rain, but would increase the possible window area for additional light penetration. On the subject of supercapacitors, I looked it up and I don't feel the state of the art is ready. But in the process of looking at various energy webpages, I was reminded of an alternative storage technology. I usually disdain flywheels because designers keep trying to add them to cars. But flywheels in a fixed setting makes a lot of sense for evening out power loads over the whole day. With a PV direct current powered motor driving the flywheel mounted on one side, an AC generator could be mounted on the other. This becomes a DC-to-AC converter. With a long driveshaft it could be coupled to a gas fueled turbine as well. I had a somewhat sleepless night trying to remember everything I ever knew about elecric power distribution. I am starting to think that Palace-scale self-sufficiency might not be cost effective. Sending PV power to the grid, and drawing from the grid at non-generating hours, just simplifies matters so much. The whole PV power generation thing is hopefully based upon PV breeders bringing the PV panels cost down. Is anybody onboard for discussion about PV breeders? If some overlooked fatal flaw exists in that scenario, it very much affects the costs of PV in Palaces. At about 4 kilowatts peak power for each residential unit (based on 118 units), at $1/watt that adds $4,000 per unit. Current retail costs are closer to $4/watt, or $16,000 per unit. The fewer units, the less wage-earners to share payment for the system installation. These prices represent PV panel costs, not including BOS (Balance Of System) installed operating costs. Any comments? ...lk -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup