[lifesaviors] FTAL issue 16, 101303 -- re: Palaces For The People
- From: <lionkuntz@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: novusnow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Palaces4People@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:58:07 -0700 (PDT)
I want to thank you for posting your thoughts about
Palaces For The People.
I want to point out that a hectare is 107,639 square
feet, or 328 feet per side on a square conformation.
So your example at 400 feet per side is about one and
a half times larger than the hectare size I proposed.
For those whom find it inconvenient to look it up in
the archives, I want to provide below some webpage
addresses of illustrations and text. This is a
continually evolving development and ten webpages of
about 15 megabytes of data were added in September,
2003.
If NovusNow wants to dispense CD-ROMS of the material,
I have about 170 megabytes online on the website which
can be made available in the faster access format of
CD format. CDs are usually much faster than even the
fastest broadband internet connections, and it takes
literally hours to transfer the whole website over
phone lines. I don't know what NovusNow subscribers
might pay for a conceptual 'work of art' like this
project, but it has many hundreds of hours of 3D
renderings giving high magnification views of many of
the concepts. Something to think about...
PALACES FOR THE PEOPLE:
http://www.ecosyn.us/Sep2003/New_Pages_2003-sept.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/Interesting/
http://www.ecosyn.us/Ecovillage/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Palaces4People/
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Sincerely, Lion Kuntz
--- goobiehead1968 <paulc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Freedom Through Autonomous Technologies
> Issue 16, Oct. 13,2003
>
> Editor's Introduction
>
> This week we turn our attention to an interesting
> post made by one of
> our members about `palaces for the people'. We've
> done a little
> Internet research and we'll give you our take on the
> concept.
>
> We have posted our newspapers to the website, but
> unfortunately there
> is a problem with the server that won't allow the
> newspapers to be
> seen. We are trying to work out what's wrong, and
> will update you as
> soon as the problem is fixed.
>
> Additional developments in the newspaper front: We
> look to be adding
> three more papers by the start of December. We hope
> to have the
> first two newspapers up to weeklies by that point.
> We are also
> looking for writers at this point. We can offer 25
> dollars for any
> article we accept for publishing. If you have any
> articles about
> current events, autonomous technologies, etc., let
> us know and we'll
> give you more information about how to submit.
>
> The next few issues of FTAL will focus on the topics
> brought up by
> the members of our yahoo group, so if you have a
> topic you'd like to
> see covered, be sure to either write us at
> PaulC@xxxxxxxxxxxx, or
> post your information in the yahoo group.
>
> As always, I thank all of you for taking the time to
> read our
> newsletter, and I especially thank those who have
> taken the time to
> write thoughtful responses to our articles.
>
> Paul Collier
> Editor, FTAL
>
>
>
> Palaces for the People:
> Ziggurats in action
>
>
> People want to live in attractive settings. When
> designing cities,
> appearance must be taken into account. The
> appearance of a city can
> be a positive impact or a negative impact on the
> city's citizens.
>
> Our habitation on this planet leaves what is called
> a `human
> footprint'. The more space we occupy, the greater
> the human
> footprint, the greater our negative effect on our
> environment. If we
> can decrease the space we take up, if we can live in
> areas of greater
> concentration, we can decrease this human footprint.
>
> If you support the suppositions of the introduction
> to this article,
> you just might be intrigued with Palaces for the
> People.
>
> Palaces for the People are essentially villages that
> are contained in
> one large building, or a few large buildings. These
> buildings are
> shaped like the ziggurats of old, or steppe
> pyramids, and the design
> has logic behind it. Here's the assumption behind
> the design.
>
> With today's conventional buildings, we waste
> valuable space. We
> waste even more valuable space in an urban setting
> using these square
> and rectangle-shaped constructions. In the
> assumptions made, you
> must first understand two types of space: enclosed
> space and open air
> space. By open air and enclosed space, we are
> referring to the space
> that can be utilized.
>
> In an urban setting, the amount of enclosed space an
> open space
> roughly translates to the total of the area actually
> occupied, with
> 50 percent of the space being open air, and 50
> percent of the space
> being closed. With the use of a ziggurat, this
> ratio is doubled. In
> the same amount of land utilized by a traditional
> urban design, the
> amount of enclosed space is equal to the land size,
> and so is the
> open air space (it is actually slightly less, but
> close enough to
> make the claim that ziggurats double the amount of
> usable space).
>
> Other advantages to the ziggurat lie in the amount
> of solar
> exposure. In urban settings, the traditional square
> and rectangle
> buildings block out the sun. This has the effect of
> raising heating
> and cooling costs, as well as electric costs. It
> also limits the
> ability of the urban environment to create any
> autonomous gardening
> projects.
>
> I have seen a couple proposed examples of how a
> palace for the people
> could be designed, but I thought it would be fun to
> play around with
> the numbers given and come with an idea of my own.
>
> The first two levels of the ziggurat are the same.
> In my case, I
> have a ziggurat that is only 1 square acre (about
> 400 by 400 feet).
> On the first level of my ziggurat, I will place
> shops, schools,
> municipal offices, and emergency services (1 sq.
> acre). On the
> second level of my ziggurat (1 sq. acre), I will
> place some local
> manufacturing centers.
>
> The third level, which is slightly smaller (about
> 250 by 250 feet),
> would comprise residences. On the third level's
> open-air space
> (comprised of an area equivalent to about 120 by 120
> feet), I would
> place aquaponics compounds. The fourth level (about
> 150 by 150 feet)
> would also include residential centers. Its open
> air space would be
> dedicated to open plazas (comprised of an area
> equivalent to about 90
> by 90 feet).
>
> Finally, the fifth and sixth levels would both have
> enclosed space
> dedicated to offices, and open air space dedicated
> to open plazas.
> The population of such a center would be about 80
> people.
> Alternative concepts of the ziggurat design could
> include a community
> of a few ziggurats, with each ziggurat dedicated to
> a specific aspect
> of the community, such as commerce, food growth,
> manufacturing,
> residential, education, etc.
>
> The essential concept of the Palace for the People
> is that we can get
> more people in smaller space, and that space could
> be both more
> environmentally friendly and more human friendly.
> To that end, I see
> the Palace for the People as a positive development.
> But the Palace
> for the People is not for everyone.
>
> For those of us who wish to be more independent, the
> Palace for the
> People may not be the best place to live. But for
> billions of people
> on the planet already living in constricted,
> unhealthy space, these
> Palaces offer a great alternative. As such, I
> believe that for
> NovusNow as a group, that the ziggurat concept
> should be considered
> as a viable alternative, especially in urban
> settings.
>
> Ziggurats would require a large initial capital
> investment that make
> them impractical for initial development.
> Small-scale test ziggurats
> could, however, be built, and I would love to see
> what some of you
> who have posted to our yahoo group have to say about
> coming up with a
> design to support, say, 5 or 6 families, or a
> ziggurat designed
> solely to grow and process food. I would think that
> in the NovusNow
> test village there should be space eventually for a
> small-scale test
> ziggurat through which we can integrate some of the
> other autonomous
> technologies into this concept.
>
> What are your thoughts? Post to our yahoo group or
> write to the
> editor at PaulC@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Next week:
> More on what the members are posting
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Sincerely, Lion Kuntz
Santa Rosa, California, USA
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Palaces4People/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Palaces4Japan/
http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Proposal/Palaces_For_The_People.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Challenges/Asia_Floods/Wet/All_Wet.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/Interesting/
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