[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: revised UEB table: first part done

  • From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:28:00 -0600

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the info. How do the GB tables do in back-translation? That 
is a big weakness of the current UEB tables.

What is the problem with getting a build of liblouisutdml in Windows?

Thanks,
John

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:45:53AM +0000, Paul Wood wrote:
> John,
> First I appreciate that the US tables are undoubtedly the best, but are 
> they the best way forward for UEB?
> Do we have access to a list of differences from BANA to UEB?
> Maybe the Australians have one?
> The reason I ask is the gb or SEB tables might not be 100% but are 
> pretty close, we have work at the moment checking this on a 'normal' 
> book, but experience so far is very good, only picking up foreign words 
> and problems with apostrophes and quotes etc.
> But we do have a good list of differences between the codes, so with a 
> table expert, which I'm not! it should be quite easy to modify the SEB 
> (gb) tables to UEB.
> I still haven't got a working latest liblouisudtml in windows, which has 
> been the delay for us.
> I'm going down the DAISY pipeline2 route and have latest betas to test 
> this week, which I hope to do today or Monday.
> If you can access a good list of differences for US to UEB, then of 
> course that would be the best approach!
> more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Braille
> HTH
> Paul
> 
> On 16/11/2012 10:14, John J. Boyer wrote:
> >Hi Joseph,
> >
> >Great work. I think that trying to fix the UEB grade 1 table would be
> >more work than modifying en-us-g1 for UEB. The en-us tables contain a
> >lot of knowledge that the persons who made the UEB tables didn't have.
> >
> > From what I know of UEB largesign opcodes should be replaced with always
> >joinword should be replaced with word or maybe deleted.
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:03:01AM -0800, Joseph Lee wrote:
> >>Hi folks,
> >>
> >>Attached is the revised UEB table based on en-us-g2.ctb. For consistency, 
> >>I
> >>named the file as "en-ueb-g2.ctb".
> >>
> >>In the first part:
> >>
> >>.         Modified the header to add my email address and wrote the fact
> >>that this table is for testing purposes only. Also declared that this 
> >>table
> >>is based on en-us-g2.ctb.
> >>
> >>.         Removed "ally" and "ation" contractions, as they are not needed
> >>anymore.
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>Just curious: are there any problems with uebc-g1/g2.ctb? If the problems
> >>are severe, then starting from scratch would be a good idea, with the 
> >>basis
> >>for these tables coming from en-us-g1/g2.ctb.
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >>
> >>//JL
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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