MessageHi Patrick, I think anyone would like www.kenrockwell.com. He seems like such a lucky fellow, you really want to hate him because he is handsome, rich and just buys and tries out every possible kind of lens, scanner, etc. and posts the results, but he is such a genuinely nice guy- and a very very good photographer- that you really end up liking him. He really wants to help people learn to be better photographers, not just techno-nuts hung up on arcane lens design factoids that never actually use film in the cameras they collect- and drive the price up on to where WE can't afford them anymore. Besides very detailed reviews of specific equipment and comparisons, etc. he has a lot of general photo advice. He takes the tack that- at least in the broad sense- the camera does NOT matter... read his articles... it is the intent and willingness to shoot, analyze, improve that makes us good photographers, not just nerdy boring camera collectors (for which he reserves a special place in hell... read his hillarious article on the five kinds of 'photographers') Aparently a lot of these guys just drive him crazy and he is constantly re-iterating that this is about making photos and nothing else, the camera is just a means to do it. Certainly it is wonderful to have a Leica instead of a Pentax K-1000 but that is because we are - hopefully- at the point that we can see the difference in the photographs we take, not because we think it will make us into better photographers automatically. I think his points are valid, what do you guys think? I can say I agree with him that you can take someone with a truly artistic eye, and they will make beautiful photos with minimal training, whereas the most accomplished techno type may not after years of memorizing arcane photo factoids. My daughter, artist, sculptor, etc. is one of these types.... she amazed me with her first roll, and it made me realize that this is how these persons see everything around them all the time. She won't eat certain foods based on their color, texture, proximity to other stuff on her plate, etc, what seem to be bizarre criteria to us , certainly maddening to us as parents, but I think I can now understand that people like her that relate to everything artistically and is is the equivalent to something screaming in their ear to have something not visually pleasing.... I'm glad I don't have to go thru the world with that degree of sensitivity, I have a hard enough time not being distracted and annoyed by a lot of stuff as it is ....! ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Werner To: 'LEICA Group' Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: [LRFlex] Photography Can anyone recommend websites for the extreme amateur photographer?