Hi David, Recently, you wrote: > I agree, the paraphernalia is a big hangup - particularly for the > traveler. Recently, however, there has come to the market a neat > device that eliminates the need to carry a lap-top. > > It's a battery powered CD burner/card reader. You pull your card out > of the camera, pop it into the box and within 3 minutes or so, you've > burned a CD. You then burn a second copy before erasing the card (in > the camera) and mail one CD home, while the other goes in your > back-pack. > > Mail from some third world countries can be problematic, but the > chances of both your being robbed and your other CD being lost in the > mail at the same time is remote. So no matter what happens, you're > likely to get your photos home! > I'm not sure which "problem" is being "solved", here. Do you take any special measures to back up your film cannisters to protect against both robbery and having them lost en route? I'm just curious. We recently returned from a trip to the west coast (USA), where I debated over which gear to haul. The first part of the trip was to San Francisco, where we did some of the "touristy" things during our stay. On the return trip we spent a few days in the Rockies, so I wanted to re-shoot some of the scenery that I first shot around 25 years ago (Estes Park & Garden of The Gods, Colorado). On the earlier trip, I shot those locations in 35 mm, so this time I decided to take my Rollei 6008i kit. That decision made it impossible to also take my Leica kit (I know... automatically OT by definition... apologies!). Out of deference to weight and space, I also carried my Nikon digicam (8700). That kit, with its extra batteries, charger and extra CF cards easily fits in a shoulder bag for a small consumer video camera and weighs under 3 lbs., which makes it a practical alternative for snapshots. I wouldn't be inclined to add an external CD burner, batteries and charger to that kit, because adding extra CF cards would only increase the carrying weight by a couple of ounces each, while expanding the shooting capacity and eliminating the time spent burning CDs (I'm not sure about the 3 minute estimated figure, either, as it can take that long to download the contents of a 512 mb card to a fast computer). The CF cards are small and light enough that they could be kept in a separate pocket or container, as well. In fact, keeping track of them would be more of a problem than carrying them! ;-) If shooting "pro", the kit would likely have to be more extensive, mainly because of the expectations of "instant results" with digital. While in San Francisco, I was able to observe a digital photographer hired for an event that we attended. He took over 500 shots, and was displaying them from his laptop via a media projector during the event while continuing to shoot. Of course, he was local, so many of the travel-related issues that you mentioned would not have been a problem. Another direction that has taken off is the delivery of "instant prints", and there are now many portable printers that don't require the use of a computer to deliver 8"x10" prints to customers at an event. These printers are cheap enough that one could set up a number of them to produce prints quickly. This is the type of setup that one can find at amusement parks, where shots of riders can be purchased between ride cycles. My long-winded response to your original points can be summed up by saying that I see digital vs. film photography to be as different in purpose as photography vs. video. To me, the overarching question is the kind of work that one is interested in doing. What is getting overlooked is the process of review, editing and selection that the film photographer does as a normal part of the process. A "shotgun" approach to shooting and lack of scrutiny seems to be the general direction that digital photography is headed, and that doesn't interest me much. Best regards, Neil Gould -------------------------------------- Terra Tu AV - www.terratu.com Technical Graphics & Media ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr/lrflex.htm Archives are at: www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/