HI ARAM,
AS REDICULOUS AS THIS ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION MAYBE? BUT HERE YOU ARE!
"I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE?"
MY NO.1 SON SET EVERYTHING UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND I JUST PICK & CLICK
AWAY AND IT ALL, SOME HOW WORKS! NOT ALWAYS CORRECTLY AND HE COMES TO THE
PALACE AND GETS IT WORKING OK AGAIN!!!!!!!!
CHEERS,
Dr. Ted GRANT O.C.
-----Original Message-----
From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aram Langhans
Sent: November-19-19 7:19 PM
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [LRflex] Re: Re Capture One - for Ted
Curious, Ted. What software do you use on your computer for your happy
snaps?
I do miss my darkroom. It was way more fun than sitting in front of a
computer.
Aram
On 11/19/2019 6:30 PM, Ted Grant wrote:
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BONJOUR PHILIPPE.
WELL MY FRIEND I NEVER REALLY LEARNED ALL THE FILM BITS & PEICES ABOUT
"PUSHING= PULLING" ETC.
I LEARNED FAIRLY WELL MAKING 8x10 CONTACT SHEETS TO 30x40 ENLARGED
PRINTS TO TRY IT.
PRINTING IN THE GENERAL SENSE WASN'T A PROBLEM OF ANY KIND UNLESS
RETURNING FROM A MONTH LONG SHOOTING EVERY DAY DOCUMENTARY AND THERE
WERE QUITE OFTEN SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF ROLLS OF 36 FRAMES ON EACH ROLL.
YEP AND SOME TIMES THERE WERE 24 HOUR GUNG HO PROCESSING WITHOUT ANY
WHINING OR COMPLAINING. SOME CLIENTS HAD THEIR OWN DARKROOM STAFF SO
ALL THE SOUPING WAS DONE BY DARKROOM STAFF. A NICE BREAK AFTER
SHOOTING AN ASSIGNMENT EVERY DAY FOR A MONTH OR SO. THAT'S FROM DAWN
UNTIL SUNSET! YES SOME TIMES AFTER DARK ON SOME ASSIGNMENTS!
BUT AS IN MY ROOKIE DAYS BACK IN THE '50's I JUST PLUGGED ALONG
SHOOTING & LEARNING AS I WENT ALONG! TESTING LENSES OR OTHER EQUIPMENT
I BOUGHT LENSES AND CAMERA BODIES THAT ALLOWED ME TO REACH THE SUBJECT
WITHOUT ALOT OR ANY SO CALLED TESTING!
THE BOTTOM LINE? NO MATTER THE CAMERA MANUFACTURER ? THE PHOTOGRAPHER
IS STILL THE DRIVER OF THE CAMERA AND HIS OR HER EYES TO CAPTURE THE
PHOTO MAGIC IN THE PRINT!
I, STILL WITH NEW LENSES OR NEVER BEFORE USED LENSES. RARELY DO I
HAVE TIME FOR A BUNCH OF TESTING? DIGTAL MAKES IT EASIER, AS TODAY WE
CAN SHOOT SOME FRAMES AND WITH A FEW IMAGES POPPED OFF? YOU CAN SEE
THE RESULTS.
THEN TODAY? WE GET INTO ACTION AND ROLLS ARE LOCKED INTO THE COMPUTER
AND IMAGES ARE LOCKED ON THE SCREEN WITHIN A FEW MINUTES AND WE'RE
EDITING LIKE CRAZY AND MAKING 8X10'S AS FAST AS WE CAN FOR PUBLISHING!
BEATS THE HECK OUT OF THE "OLDEN DAYS!!!"
CHEERS
Dr. Ted GRANT O.C.
*From:*leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Philippe
*Sent:* November-18-19 11:13 PM
*To:* Leica Reflex
*Subject:* [LRflex] Re: Re Capture One
As already said - works so long as you stick to your current camera
and OS …
The future is in the cloud, for heaven’s or hell’s sake, but it is
there. Sofware companies will take no prisoners, we’re all doomed :-).
Amities
Philippe
Le 19 nov. 2019 à 07:58, Frank Filippone (Redacted sender "red735i"
for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
I for one, would like to hear that LR edits are automatically imported
into Capture one….. but my limited attempts have all failed.
Try doing this with a simple test… Take a random image in LR and crop it.
Import into Capture One.
Doe the cropped or full image appear?
PS: Capture One also comes in a $10 month by month option…..
Cloud????? Not for my $0.02
But I do believe that this is the direction of Adobe in the future…..
and then they REALLY own you. Pay up or lose your photos.
Frank Filippone
Red735i@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Red735i@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*From:*leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On Behalf Of*Bill Abbott 3
*Sent:*Monday, November 18, 2019 12:53 PM
*To:*The Leica Reflex Forum
*Subject:*[LRflex] Re Capture One
Dear Aram, Philippe, William, Frank and Bob,
Thank you for your frank and helpful comments about contemplating
moving from LR to Capture One.
Reading the Capture One internet text, I understand that Capture One
uses a LR Catalog that is exported from LR by LR without any change to
LR so I am free to try it without bothering my LR in any way, which is
my initial provisional step.
Their text implies that moving takes all LR editing with the move so
we will see if that is a “true fact,” as my brother used to laughingly
say.
More important is why would I ever think of doing this? The answer
comes in several flavors.
First is this article which caught my interest:
https://luminous-landscape.com/adobe-why-have-you-forsaken-us/
It is one man's opinion and his guess as to what Adobe is planning to
do with LR in the future, more near than far, ending with no desktop
app but an all cloud future. He could be completely off base,
partially correct or turn out to be accurate.
Only time will tell. But it made me think, “Would I want that? All my
photo files in Adobe’s cloud?
Of course I’d retain the original digital files here on terra firma,
or as firm as any desk top hard drive can be.
To be frank, my Mac Mini and and Master Lightroom hard drives are
backed up by two sets of duplicate hard drives here on earth as well
as by both Crashplan and Backblaze in their clouds. It is called “belt
and suspenders."
What tipped my thinking? I have had a year long battle with the
Digital Asset Management (DAM) portion of LR such as when importing by
"Adding files at their current location” LR does not do that
and creates duplicate files as well.
It is true that I have never been a fan of LR’s Keyword scheme
interface although I have tried several times to create a
useful keyword structure but have never made it work for me.
I have never been able to make the Keyword indention feature work as I
think it should, IMHO, and not show the Master Category along with the
Subordinate Category and not just the latter. But that’s the way it
is, as Walter Cronkite would say.
And as you know, LR does not move source files, i.e., the LR virtual
file structure cannot match the source file structure on my Master
Lightroom hard drive. Is that important?
I am not sure because that has been a “feature" of data bases since I
met my first one in the early 1970s.
So one thought is to separate the DAM function from the
image manipulation function for the benefit of both. It’s too long a
story for this discussion but I learned to distrust dual purpose
devices and that goes for software as well. Maybe I could learn to use
another approach with other DAM software.
Back when I was first scanning old family photos in the early 1990s I
used Canto DAM software until they ditched their personal software and
went to an all business orientation, where they exist this day. From
that experience I concluded there must be some DAM software out there
for me.
As for image editing, I use very little of LR’s magic and probably
could get any with Adobe Elements as my two sons do with their
voluminous output to Flickr.
So that’s where I am at this juncture, perhaps chasing a fantasy of a
solid digital asset management system and usable
image manipulation software that meets my basic "tidy up” image
editing needs.
Thanks again for your thoughts and for sharing them and for listening.
You’ve helped me clarify my thinking which I deeply appreciate.
With best regards,
Bill
