Thanks David, I would unhesitatingly agree with the Leica Glass offering a higher level of potential than my Pancolar. Still, the shooting conditions were fairly miserable, the light was nil, and the iso was high. Without fanboying it, I think the Zeiss delivered the goods quite well. I wouldn't hesitate to say 'I' shot this image - ( while trying not to break my arm patting myself on the back!). Richard W. ________________________________ From: David Young <dsy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:56:13 PM Subject: [LRflex] Re: New Member Image Sample Richard showed: This First one was taken with a >Zeiss Pancolar 50 on my 20D. That's my cousin's son standing on third >base. > >>http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3522/3267824103_9f55579064_b.jpg >> >>The second is a 1:1 crop to show detail. > >>http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/3267824111_0757e19c9f_o.jpg Nice shots ... the detail shot is good, though I think you'll find Leica glass will do a bit better. But all things in good time. Cheers! --- David Young Logan Lake, BC Wildlife Photos: www.furnfeather.net Rodeo Photos: www.galleries.furnfeather.net Personal Website: www.main.furnfeather.net