A local dealer let me try out a 3-cam 180 Apo f3.4. I took it out on my SL2. Yes it is a sharp lens, but you have to control contrast or use it where contrast is not too demanding or high contrast helps with the photograph? Here is one of my first shots on Superia 400, yes a common bird shot (wrong group I know!); it was a dull day but the contrast here is in my view too high. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7180494@N02/440574535/in/photostream/ Here is a simple detail from a canal boat; here the contrast helps: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7180494@N02/440574541/in/photostream/ Needless to say I bought the lens! Here one taken with the R8 and Velvia 50 where I have exploited the contrast - I am a sucker for cloudscapes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7180494@N02/440574545/in/photostream/ I am wondering if this lens is not best for B&W? I will want to compare it to the 80-200 f4 (with the latter at its 200 end). I don't have a Nikon 200 to compare. Chris -----Original Message----- From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 31 March 2007 07:15 To: leicareflex digest users ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Howard Cummer <cummer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [LRflex] Leica 180 APO versus Nikkor 200 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:29:51 +0800 Dear Flavio, In my experience the 180 APO is better - no question - in terms of contrast, picture detail and colour rendition - but sometimes you want something a little longer - and that is where the 200 comes in. It is a very good lens in its own right but not in the same league as the 180 APO. Cheers Howard On 30 Mar 2007, at 2:14 PM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:52:47 +0200 > From: "FLAVIO GORI" <flaviogori@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [LRflex] Re: Preparing for the Rugby 7's > > Howard, > I also use an Apo Telyt 180 Apo with my R4s and previuosly with > SL2. In my > experience (since 1985) it is one the very (very) best example of > optics, > especially (though not only) in the red region. > What is your opinion, also comparing with your Nikkor 200? Any one > is using > Apo Telyt AND Grenoble 400 mm? Any report would be greatly > appreciated. > > Many thanks! > > Flavio > ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/