[LRflex] Re: Le Voyage Digital de Bille
- From: "Bille Xavier F." <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:58:47 +0200
Bonjour Robert.
Sorry for the late answer, had a PC Mishaps.
The G5? Used it this summer, my collegue had one and it "feels" nice. As per
the images, yours is delightful, well exposed and balanced.
In fact, you, Bob, Philippe and others, I had kicked the dog to hear it bark
a wee bit.
It is quite interesting to see how a Digital Camera can produce an image, it
is some how different from what the "traditionnal" camera by Leica does.
But the ads in magazines since a few years have been the production of
digital sensors.
Today, I believe that a Digital Reflex able to mount any of the big names of
the manual focus lenses, including Leica R is a winner. Especially if it has
a simple interface like the Leica M8 seems to have.
Mind you, I have seen David Young and his DMR, it seems ergonomic too. But
the camera is large.
Now, these are just wanderings.
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Xavier F. BILLE
Maisons-Alfort - France.
>From: rsphotoimages@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Le Voyage Digital de Bille
>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:24:30 +0000
>
>Bille:
>I too own a Canon G5.
>
>I like it. It's a keeper until it breaks, which it surely will. Just a
>matter of time. So what?
>
>It is fraught with limitations, but so is a Space Shuttle.
>
>It was my first digital purchase, two years ago. I held out for a long
>time until I saw something like a range finder design that was not totally
>plastic. Sort of a digital M5 wannabe with flaws. But at least it was in
>a black metal body.
>
>Even at "only" 5 Mpixels, it has yielded some remarkable results, as long
>as I stay between ISO 50 and 100, only shoot Large JPEG, forget about
>action shots or indoor dark flash pix, etc. etc.
>
>But properly used, it has been a very satisfying "utility camera" that now
>and then amazes me.
>
>It aint no Leica; for "serious stuff", its always the R8 or R9, or maybe my
>remarkable little Contax T2.
>
>But I would NEVER discourage anyone from buying a digicam; they are fun,
>useful and great educational tools for film photographers to brush up their
>Basic Photography skills. Guys like me.
>
>In fact, I never order prints off my R8/9 neg film any more.
>
>I have my stuff commercially processed and scanned to high resolution disk
>for work in Photoshop Elements for Mac so I can digitally print at home
>then select the shots that I want "wet" printed. Works for me and less
>costly than printing every frame of every roll.
>
>The CD becomes a sort of "Digital Proof Sheet", si vous voulez.
>
>I shot a candid portrait on request last year with the G5; example attached
>(ISO 100, hand held, indoor, available light). This image easily went to
>8x10 and printed beautifully...). I rest my case.
>
>Regards,
>
>Robert en Seattle
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Bille Xavier F." <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Hello Bob,
> >
> > Indeed, it was a little provocative. Probably, looking at EXIF data, you
> > found that it was actually a 2 MP image. It was even more provocative
>since
> > te file was 2.7 M bytes.
> >
> > Bob I'm gald of your reaction, it is very interesting. There are a lot
>of
> > unknown to me in this dugital world. And it's far more complex than a
>normal
> > consumer like you and I may grab. No Pun inteded, I'm far more ignorant
>than
> > you although my job is IT Engineer (in a very different field :))
> >
> > When David showed me his pix on the DMR screen, I realised there was a
> > tremendous step forward compared to film. The possibilty to give the
>sensor
> > a set of paameters to match all the different lighting condition, going
>from
> > 100 ISO to 3200 ISO in a simple push button, going from nightscene to
>bright
> > sunshine easily.
> >
> > And your Canon has all this as well. The little Powershot I have ordered
> > while waiting for the R10 is a Canon, with the same essence as your
>Canon.
> > Lesser quality results, probably. You are right to despise it, but to
>show
> > pix to friends, it's enough.
> >
> > I'm indeed joining your view, "it will do until later" except I put more
> > "love" to my R7 and the fuji Provia 100 ISO than in a Digital. But
>please do
> > not not consider me as hopeless, wait a little....
> >
> > What does the difference is the geometry and absolute lack of distorsion
> > from the Leica R lenses. Of course, it takes days to scan a slide but in
> > fact I can't stand those barrel/convex distorsion.
> >
> > When I take a pix with the Elmarit 24 (although sometimes despised), the
>pix
> > looks OK (provided I have not made mistakes). Same applies to the Sa 21.
> > When I take a pix with the Canon G5, for a friend in India, Mamma
>Mia....
> >
> > So, I follow your feeling. I am waiting for a R10 with a 1.3 factor. It
>may
> > not even come. But that"s what I like. And if the M8 is a possible
>answer,
> > I'll keep my clumsy settings.
> >
> > Thanks again Bob for your strong point exposed with an ultimate
>diplomacy.
> > It is very delicate and constructive. In fact, I adhere to all your
> > conclusions. Keep on.
> > ---------------------------------
> > Xavier F. BILLE
> > Maisons-Alfort - France.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: bob palmieri <rpalmier@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [LRflex] Re: Non Leica, Digital Wanderings, The R10 tha I
>dream
> > >of.
> > >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:18:14 -0500
> > >
> > >On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Bille Xavier F. wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is another one:
> > >
> > > > http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/Buffet.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Surprising, eh?
> > > >
> > > > ---> Given the tremendous possibilities of this little Point and
> > > > shoot,
> > > > given to see what a simple old digital camera can do,
> > >
> > >Xavier -
> > >
> > >Thanks for putting forth this provocative and courageous position.
> > >Here's what I think you like about the camera: it's small, easy to
> > >snap with and inexpensive.
> > >
> > >What I think you like about the pictures is that they seem sharp (and
> > >reasonably well illuminated and exposed.) I feel that you're very
> > >much on the mark with using computer monitor display as one of the
> > >main criteria in making your point, because the sharpness impression
> > >(in the tableshot), I believe, is partially a result of 1:1 pixel
> > >mapping. In other display forms this machine might not bite the eye
> > >the same way.
> > >
> > >But your pictures also exemplify some of the things I can't tolerate
> > >about these little marvels, especially all the distortion in the
> > >tableshot, and the fact that the thing probably snapped the picture
> > >later than you intended in the shot with the dancer's arm on the
> > >right side of the photo.
> > >
> > >And in fact, it is the "everything in focus" small-sensor thing which
> > >also drives me nuts sometimes when I'm trying to get the image to
> > >look a lot less busy.
> > >
> > >I gotta tellya that as a guy who just LUVS small, light, and
> > >inexpensive gear, I bought a sorta high-end small (not quite pocket-
> > >size) digisnapper a couple of years ago and HATED it.
> > >
> > >So, I've taken the opposite approach to your small-supplement-to-the-
> > >serious-snapper-solution and just taken to hauling around my 20D as a
> > >one-box compromise instead. It's not nearly as small as a digicam
> > >and won't produce the big-time results that the DMR will under some
> > >circumstances but it's the way for me at the moment.
> > >
> > >Bob Palmieri
> > >
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