[LRflex] Le Fou de Robert
- From: rsphotoimages@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:20:32 +0000
Mea Culpa, Everyone!!!
Had a Senior Moment and forgot about the "NO PIX" rule on this here forum.
Go HERE: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5006068
WARNING: It's candid portrait of the client's 80+ year old maman, so just look
at the detail, color, light in terms of what you can produce out of a 5 Mp
digicam if things Go right. The original JPG file is a bit over 1.5 Megs.
Anybody can do this or better.
This particular Large JPG file printed really well on Epson 8.5x11 inch
Enhanced Matte Archive Paper with minimal (Auto Contrast, Crop, Size). My
favorite paper for Presentation Proofs of portraits or landscapes.
Thanks to all.
Bo The Seattle Guy
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Philippe Amard <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Salut Robert de Seattle!
> attached file is missing and this is why :
>
> -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
> -- Type: image/jpeg
> -- File: G5 Portrait.JPG
>
> As I found what you wrote quite enlightening I sure would like to see the
> portrait.
> Perhaps you could post it on some site such as the Leica Users Gallery or
> other,
> and give us the pointer?
>
> Thaks in anticipation
> Yours
> Phileicangenieux.
>
>
>
>
> rsphotoimages@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >Bille:
> >I too own a Canon G5.
> >
> >I like it. It's a keeper until it breaks, which it surely will. Just a
> >matter
> of time. So what?
> >
> >It is fraught with limitations, but so is a Space Shuttle.
> >
> >It was my first digital purchase, two years ago. I held out for a long time
> until I saw something like a range finder design that was not totally
> plastic.
> Sort of a digital M5 wannabe with flaws. But at least it was in a black
> metal
> body.
> >
> >Even at "only" 5 Mpixels, it has yielded some remarkable results, as long as
> >I
> stay between ISO 50 and 100, only shoot Large JPEG, forget about action shots
> or
> indoor dark flash pix, etc. etc.
> >
> >But properly used, it has been a very satisfying "utility camera" that now
> >and
> then amazes me.
> >
> >It aint no Leica; for "serious stuff", its always the R8 or R9, or maybe my
> remarkable little Contax T2.
> >
> >But I would NEVER discourage anyone from buying a digicam; they are fun,
> useful and great educational tools for film photographers to brush up their
> Basic Photography skills. Guys like me.
> >
> >In fact, I never order prints off my R8/9 neg film any more.
> >
> >I have my stuff commercially processed and scanned to high resolution disk
> >for
> work in Photoshop Elements for Mac so I can digitally print at home then
> select
> the shots that I want "wet" printed. Works for me and less costly than
> printing
> every frame of every roll.
> >
> >The CD becomes a sort of "Digital Proof Sheet", si vous voulez.
> >
> >I shot a candid portrait on request last year with the G5; example attached
> (ISO 100, hand held, indoor, available light). This image easily went to
> 8x10
> and printed beautifully...). I rest my case.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Robert en Seattle
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: "Bille Xavier F." <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >>Hello Bob,
> >>
> >>Indeed, it was a little provocative. Probably, looking at EXIF data, you
> >>found that it was actually a 2 MP image. It was even more provocative since
> >>te file was 2.7 M bytes.
> >>
> >>Bob I'm gald of your reaction, it is very interesting. There are a lot of
> >>unknown to me in this dugital world. And it's far more complex than a
> >>normal
> >>consumer like you and I may grab. No Pun inteded, I'm far more ignorant
> >>than
> >>you although my job is IT Engineer (in a very different field :))
> >>
> >>When David showed me his pix on the DMR screen, I realised there was a
> >>tremendous step forward compared to film. The possibilty to give the sensor
> >>a set of paameters to match all the different lighting condition, going
> >>from
> >>100 ISO to 3200 ISO in a simple push button, going from nightscene to
> >>bright
> >>sunshine easily.
> >>
> >>And your Canon has all this as well. The little Powershot I have ordered
> >>while waiting for the R10 is a Canon, with the same essence as your Canon.
> >>Lesser quality results, probably. You are right to despise it, but to show
> >>pix to friends, it's enough.
> >>
> >>I'm indeed joining your view, "it will do until later" except I put more
> >>"love" to my R7 and the fuji Provia 100 ISO than in a Digital. But please
> >>do
> >>not not consider me as hopeless, wait a little....
> >>
> >>What does the difference is the geometry and absolute lack of distorsion
> >>from the Leica R lenses. Of course, it takes days to scan a slide but in
> >>fact I can't stand those barrel/convex distorsion.
> >>
> >>When I take a pix with the Elmarit 24 (although sometimes despised), the
> >>pix
> >>looks OK (provided I have not made mistakes). Same applies to the Sa 21.
> >>When I take a pix with the Canon G5, for a friend in India, Mamma Mia....
> >>
> >>So, I follow your feeling. I am waiting for a R10 with a 1.3 factor. It may
> >>not even come. But that"s what I like. And if the M8 is a possible answer,
> >>I'll keep my clumsy settings.
> >>
> >>Thanks again Bob for your strong point exposed with an ultimate diplomacy.
> >>It is very delicate and constructive. In fact, I adhere to all your
> >>conclusions. Keep on.
> >>---------------------------------
> >>Xavier F. BILLE
> >>Maisons-Alfort - France.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: bob palmieri <rpalmier@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Reply-To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [LRflex] Re: Non Leica, Digital Wanderings, The R10 tha I dream
> >>>of.
> >>>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:18:14 -0500
> >>>
> >>>On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Bille Xavier F. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Here is another one:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/Buffet.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>>Surprising, eh?
> >>>>
> >>>>---> Given the tremendous possibilities of this little Point and
> >>>>shoot,
> >>>>given to see what a simple old digital camera can do,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Xavier -
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for putting forth this provocative and courageous position.
> >>>Here's what I think you like about the camera: it's small, easy to
> >>>snap with and inexpensive.
> >>>
> >>>What I think you like about the pictures is that they seem sharp (and
> >>>reasonably well illuminated and exposed.) I feel that you're very
> >>>much on the mark with using computer monitor display as one of the
> >>>main criteria in making your point, because the sharpness impression
> >>>(in the tableshot), I believe, is partially a result of 1:1 pixel
> >>>mapping. In other display forms this machine might not bite the eye
> >>>the same way.
> >>>
> >>>But your pictures also exemplify some of the things I can't tolerate
> >>>about these little marvels, especially all the distortion in the
> >>>tableshot, and the fact that the thing probably snapped the picture
> >>>later than you intended in the shot with the dancer's arm on the
> >>>right side of the photo.
> >>>
> >>>And in fact, it is the "everything in focus" small-sensor thing which
> >>>also drives me nuts sometimes when I'm trying to get the image to
> >>>look a lot less busy.
> >>>
> >>>I gotta tellya that as a guy who just LUVS small, light, and
> >>>inexpensive gear, I bought a sorta high-end small (not quite pocket-
> >>>size) digisnapper a couple of years ago and HATED it.
> >>>
> >>>So, I've taken the opposite approach to your small-supplement-to-the-
> >>>serious-snapper-solution and just taken to hauling around my 20D as a
> >>>one-box compromise instead. It's not nearly as small as a digicam
> >>>and won't produce the big-time results that the DMR will under some
> >>>circumstances but it's the way for me at the moment.
> >>>
> >>>Bob Palmieri
> >>>
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