[LRflex] Re: Focus screen for Leica lenses on Canon 5d

  • From: Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:39:55 +0200

Hi,
I use the precision screens on all my Canons. Works great and very cheap
too.

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

On 23 August 2010 19:21, Gary Todoroff <datamaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Thanks very much Richard, for the thoughtful reply. You're right - I
> should just budget enough to try out various Canon screens that cost
> only $25-$50. I remember Beattie bright screens -- typically in the
> $200 range, but a real "magic bullet" in some cameras for improving
> the optical viewfinder. So I was wondering if anyone had tried a more
> high-end screen with spectacular manual focus results on any Canon DLSR.
>
> I'm really looking forward to a 21 megapixel sensor on that wonderful
> Leica R glass, especially for aerial photography. My latest project
> has been printing poster size photographs for sale.
> http://northcoastphotos.com/poster-index For 20x30 inch prints on my
> Epson 7600, the Canon 5d MII and Leica lenses should give me plenty
> of resolution for big prints.
>
> Thanks again for all the great ideas!
> Gary
>
>
> At 07:35 PM 8/22/2010, you wrote:
> >Hello Gary,
> >    The only one who can say which of the Focus Screens available is
> > the 'Best'
> >is quite frankly YOU. There are multiple variables involved such as the
> >coarseness of the surface of the mirror, the focus assist aide being a
> split
> >image rangefinder or a prismatic collar, and the maximum aperture of
> >the lens or
> >lenses you use. OH! almost forgot to include which aperture the lens
> >is at when
> >you're attempting to focus.
> >    Unfortunately, I've got no first hand experience with the 5DII or it's
> >focusing screens (sure wouldn't mind some though!). I do have a
> >number of years
> >shooting with various 35mm SLRs, some Medium Format equipment, and
> >View Cameras.
> >The 'technology' in the Focus Screens you'll be choosing from isn't
> exactly
> >bleeding edge stuff :-). Not by a long shot. I've used them all and
> >even in some
> >of the EOS Film Bodies. I can attest to the fact that they A) Do Work and
> B)
> >Aren't Perfect. They all have annoying quirks and foibles about them
> >in one way
> >or another.
> >    My Advice about how to solve your riddle of 'which one for me'
> > is to come at
> >the question from a different vantage point. The usual chase we
> >photographers go
> >on is finding the best 'this-that-or-the-other' camera, widget, lens, or
> >doo-dad. You've got a powerful 21mp slr, the killer summilux fifty, the
> great
> >summicron 90, and the powerful 70-180 zoom. They're all top notch
> >stuff and do
> >their job wonderfully. They were also all expensive pieces of 'Kit' which
> ran
> >from Many Hundreds of Dollars to Many Thousands of Dollars. Canon's Focus
> >Screens aren't very expensive - I think you could get the whole range
> canon
> >makes for the 5DII for a Few Hundred at most. Give em a whirl, they're
> user
> >changeable, pick the one you like the most, and you're off and running.
> Heck,
> >maybe you can know up front you only want to try two of them, and
> >you've chopped
> >it to a Ben Franklin you'll be 'Risking' to find out which one is
> >Best.... For
> >You.
> >     I will offer my comments on focus screens anyway. Personally,
> > Prism Collars
> >annoy me to no end. They work fine in my experience for focusing,
> >but make the
> >viewfinder feel cluttered. That 'collar' tends to keep catching my
> >eye as I scan
> >my scene and pulls me into viewing the 'camera' rather than my
> >'subject'. On a 1
> >to 10 "problem" scale it's about a 2. The Split Image Rangefinders
> >are always my
> >preference, they haven't been easy for me to 'ignore' when composing
> >and reading
> >subjects, but recall it was only a 2 level issue - not like I wanted
> >to smash my
> >camera cuz of it. The Rangefinders also get dim and rather 'ghostly'
> >with slow
> >lenses or when a lens is stopped down much past f4. I found them
> >usable still,
> >but it is their weak point in my experience. The
> >'coarseness'/Matte-ness of the
> >mirror surface plays a role in making the IN-Focus image versus
> >UN-Focused parts
> >of the scene in your viewfinder be More or Less readily apparent. It's a
> nice
> >upgrade from the uber brightness of the ordinary mirrors in Canon
> >dSLRs but that
> >Matte texture tends to soak up a lot of light. Compared side by side with
> the
> >standard mirror, it's noticably 'dimmer', but whether that's a
> >Genuine Issue for
> >you is only something YOU can decide.
> >
> >Hope this might help you
> >
> >Richard in MIchigan
> >Peace
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Gary Todoroff <datamaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 8:09:00 PM
> >Subject: [LRflex] Focus screen for Leica lenses on Canon 5d
> >
> >Just wondering if anyone has experience with the best screen for
> >manually focusing fast Leica lenses on the Canon 5d Mark II? I will
> >mostly be using 50/1.4, 90/2 and 70-180/2.8 . I have heard that the
> >Ee-S screen is best for f2.8 lenses and faster, altho there is also a
> >comment that f2.8 lenses display somewhat darker than the standard
> >focus screen. Since I will be using the APO 70-180 a lot, I would
> >really appreciate comments from anyone experienced with the best
> >screen for manual focus, especially for using an f2.8 lens.
> >Thanks!
> >Gary Todoroff
>
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