If I can be presumptious, (just for second), I just want to say I think this is a great post that puts everything in the right perspective. I have a guy, professional commercial shooter for 30 years. Talked to him last year and he said, I only shoot film, I've done it for 30 years its what I know, I love the dark room etc. etc. Well he stills does a lot of his work in film, and loves it, but he has, at middle aged photographer, discovered digital and now is scanning and shooting and learning how to print inkjet really well. He did his current portfolio in inkjet and believe me, it is fabulous, but he spends as much time on an ink jet print as he would in the darkroom to get it right. Then again, he has an upcoming assignment where he is going to be using an 8x10 view camera with sheet film. I think its truly exciting times to be involved in photography. I just hope, and trust, that the digital rush won't wipe away film completely and I really don't think it will. I haven't bought a digicam yet but I'm sure I will at some point, especially if I can use the lenses I have now that I love, ie Summicron 35 and 50. Actually, the other reason I'm posting is because of the irony that I'm in the process of buying a Hassy as I've been required to shoot medium format and found that I really do love that big neg. It doesn't replace my Leica, that's for sure, but for a certain type of work I want to do, its great. Sorry for the ramble, I just was inspired by Ted's post. Regards Barry Fisher -----Original Message----- From: leica-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:leica-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ted Grant Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:01 PM To: leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Speaking of M. Johnson See: Leica M Article Peter Klein said: >>I'm not viewing digital as a replacement for film, but as a new friend >>with a very different personality than my old friend. As a way to do something different, which means I open up how I see. We're straddling two eras, with one foot in each. It's a great time to be alive, isn't it?<<<<<,, Hi Peter, It's an amazing time of photogrphy for those of us who've accepted both mediums. I find it exciting and fun all at the sme time without considering one is better than the other. Those of us who've played both, worked both and enjoyed the results of both are, I believe, common sense logical about working with both. Once again if they're accepted as tools and used at the appropriate time we are working truly in the best of two worlds. I believe it makes users better suited to tackle some assignments with one medium where it gives the perfect end product with the best results. By the same token we are "clever enough to understand" which one works best for which situation. This isn't any different to when I stopped using Hassleblads, I worked with 3 of them no differently than I did with the Leicas one day. And the next dy it was all Leica. However I got fed-up shooting both as I always felt the Leica photography was equal too and better than the Hasselblad. So I sold all my Hassie stuff and went completely Leica for everything... you name it and I used it for whatever the hell it was. Well of course a few things weren't as good with 35mm as they would've been on 2 1/4. No I didn't go and buy new Hassie gear... I stopped shooting assignments that I knew required the slightly larger format, KISS! ;-) And yes I did shoot 35mm on a few occasions and cheated by making prints which blew the 2 1/4 client away thinking they were Hassie prints. Then I told him the truth they were done with the Leica and he became an instant Leica convert and never asked me to shoot 2 1/4 again. :-) So sometimes it worked extremely well to my advantage because the client kept calling. :-) Now we have film and digital and despite what I'm now the discovering from the quality of a larger sensor and possibly the software whatever in the 20D, I'll not sell all my film camera gear. Yep a bunch of it is going to be gone, period! But I will keep lenses I find work very well with the digital and will keep one M7 and R8........ JUST IN CASE! ;-) But this is an exciting time in the world of photography and evolution of equipment. ted ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: Send email to leica-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. The acknowledgment that you then receive MUST be replied to per instructions. You may also log in to the Web interface to unsubscribe. ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: Send email to leica-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. The acknowledgment that you then receive MUST be replied to per instructions. You may also log in to the Web interface to unsubscribe.