looking at those benchmarks the old 8500s still stand up well to the = 4200's particularly in quake3 engined games (which is pretty much 2 out = of 3 games at the moment) considering you can get an 8500 for 142 quid (inc vat) (ebuyer) the ti500 is 200+ quid , the ti4400 is 250quid.=20 I like my 8500 because its fast and cheap. I happily buy nivida if they drop their prices to a more resonable = level. Kerr -----Original Message----- From: list@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jason Halls Sent: 12 April 2002 14:16 To: 'list@xxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [lanse] Geforce 4 Ti4200 review on Tom's Hardware http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020409/index.html I still like my Radion 8500 - well mainly because it isn't nvidia. Jason Halls - Systems Administrator=20 d +44 (0) 1628 532565 =20 a Strategix | Regatta Place | Marlow Road | Bourne End | SL8 5TD | UK e jason.halls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 w www.strategixsoftware.com supply chain software that delivers