A public listing is already published at http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/jhb/OnLine/JHB_Pilot_Data.htm in the JHB Online section. This should be up to date but I may be missing some VATSIM ID's. My own participation will be minimal as I find my time increasingly taken up with Manx Registry and SBS matters. I try to be online once a week for IVAO in a controlling capacity but that is about all I do now. John fossil@xxxxxxx From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Dodds Sent: 17 July 2013 19:11 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: JHB and VATSIM Well I have the required 10 names, including Frank who I'm sure will be positive, and Bones. That's a positive start. A few comments to your comments. There is no requirement to fly any particular number of hours in a period on VATSIM. As long as we have at least 10 members who are likely to fly sometime, that is sufficient. It would be a good idea if members flew once every 3 months or so as a minimum, however, much the same as IVAO. VATSIM generally has more traffic and more controllers online than IVAO, but not always and not everywhere. I have noticed over many years that IVAO is stronger in Europe, whereas VATSIM is stronger in the USA and the UK. There is no requirement to use live ATC if you don't want to. Very often in a late evening I'm too tired to want to concentrate hard, and will avoid ATC myself (so you aren't alone there Gerry). The advantage of embracing both networks is flexibility and the potential to attract new active members. (I blush at my own inactivity.) Joint events with Cix could be a positive - VFR and IFR mixing, or joint VFR events Cix already has a partnership running with Der Friesenflieger in Frieseland (north Western Germany) and we join in each others events from time to time. The IVAO pilot client software is definitely superior to either of the VATSIM offerings, but FSInn is easy to set up both single PC and on a network. You don't have to use all its clever features at all - I mostly don't. Frank and I can help anyone struggling. So with the bosses agreement, I'll move to the next stage, which is a VATSIM requirement and will need a change to the website. To be a registered VA on VATSIM, members VATSIM IDs have to be displayed on the publicly available member list. You can see the sort of layout we may need at Cix. http://www.cixvfrclub.org.uk/membership/member_list.php <http://www.cixvfrclub.org.uk/membership/member_list.php> . I will find out if members can use their Diamond call signs in advance of being registered as a VA. I have reactivated my IVAO account, so I'm off to log my first JHB flight for more than a year! Peter <mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Paul 17 July 2013 19:03 I'm happy either way. I'm generally getting less time to fly these days but have no concerns about usinh VATSim. I would have to re-activate my account and revise using their pilot client but otherwise I have no problems. Indeed I can see one very big positive, joint events with CIX! Paul <mailto:dripley@xxxxxxx> DENIS RIPLEY 17 July 2013 18:23 Ditto here Alistair. Denis On 2013-07-17, at 1:39 AM, "e-mail algy.mcintyre" <algy.mcintyre@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: