Thanks Frank. I've 2 weeks left of my sick leave so a bit of guiding will be appreciated in that time.I'm at home most of the time apart from Tues + Weds eve's when I'm def/ly out as well as Sun a.m.+p.m. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Franklyn Fisher To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Fred Don't worry,it will give you grey hairs, or none. Just take it one step at a time. log in at Ronaldsway, or do VFR in the empty spaces of the UK. Plenty of hints here on this list recently. I cannot give you any online help on IVAO, whilst online, except as pilot to pilot. On a private channel of course(Skype?) Next week, I will be back to normal, online afternoon and evenings, nothing on the black box to interest me. If you have not already done so, I recommend logging into www.fsnavigator.com, and grab the payware FSNavigator program, also the the required database. You get 20 free goes, but worth every penny, it is a flight planner/rolling map/TCAS etc. Been waiting for the FSX version. Not as pretty, or involved as FSCommander, but I find it to be more flexiable. FF ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Stopforth To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Frank, I suspected that you had been busy lately so refrained from contacting you so's you could get on with what you're doing that needs to be done.Haven't done any d/ling yet cos it's out of my depth or maybe I'm not thinking hard enough or daunted--got to be honest to myself so that the penny drops for me. Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Franklyn Fisher To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Fred Once I get my family out of the way, and the house straigtened out, I can then get back to normal?? I have already printed the 76 page ATC manual, and the training ones. Then need to print the pilot manual, and start to marry all the info. Bones's emails are also a printout job. Then, I will be able to start putting it into practice, so really, I am not much further forward than you, apart from the use of the software. FF ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Stopforth To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Hi Frank I've only got as far as getting my VID+IVAN password+web p/word and spent the night going thro the left hand menu and reading.Blooming heck if I get to know all that I shall be wanting a Degree to show for it.So I shall be shouting out as the water gets to neck and that wont take long.That much reading I haven't flown today so I'm going to try my VFR tour from Wattisham to North Denes or else I'llgo rusty Tally Ho Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: Franklyn Fisher To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Fred Worry not, you have already the necessary qualifications, just paddle slowly, and keep in touch with the controller/s, they will be happy to help, provided it is not an online night, Tuedays I believe. I too am wary of using IVAO myself, just that it is different controllers, so need to get to know them, and their way of working. Not to mention the fact that Supervisors are keeping an eye on transgressors. FF ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Stopforth To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO Just started to paddle at the edge of the sea of IVAO;so will have to put goggles on to do abit of reading before the water starts to rise as I walk down into it.Taking in the info is going to be like walking into cold water before I aclimatise to it.Just reg/ed in that's all at the mo. Brrrr Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: FrankTurley@xxxxxxx To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO In a message dated 02/08/2007 22:28:02 GMT Daylight Time, fredstopforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Hi Frank I'm keeping my eye on your mail to see how you go on with progress in IVAO.Your point of learn abit, fly abit, learn abit more so on seems to be my hope of managing to join in IVAO and hoping it wouldn't be an org. too officious to reject me.I may not be very technically minded not thro lack of want but education. But since joining JHB and the encouragement given I'm very much loth to give in.So as IVAO'S mission statement 1.3 is entertainment,education open to all then I'll hold them to that to have a hope of some success in simming. Fred Hi Fred, I hope its not putting you off. The chaps here have been kind enough to give me good advice on getting started, if you have been following that you should pick up what you need to do. 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