Yes and no. I wrote them as emails on this list and so most users will have deleted them. Having said that all our posts are stored in the Freelists archive which is open for anyone to read. Trawling through to find the specific posts would be a bit of a challenge though. There are plenty of articles on flying procedures in the UK. IVAO and VATSIM will obviously have some pages on this - we used to on PCI too until the ATC system got dumped. I'm not sure if the site Alan and Andy set up subsequently is still available - I can't even recall the URL. bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of FrankTurley@xxxxxxx Sent: 03 August 2007 08:15 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO In a message dated 03/08/2007 05:02:36 GMT Daylight Time, bones@xxxxxxx writes: Ironically many of those tutorials would be perfect for entry into IVAO as they covered the same ground about procedures. bones Are they still available? Frank T.