Re: update or new version of jfw?

  • From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:48:37 -0400

Then you will complain about the price?
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: update or new version of jfw?


> Ok here we go the question of access and access now or all the bugs =
> fixed
> and getting it right first as you put it.  This will mean that we will =
> see
> the new operating systems lator then every one else as we did in the =
> past.
> It will mean that the tools we need to access new programs will take =
> time to
> come out instead of being there when we need them.  It used to be that
> access software was as buggy as hell but every one excepted this and was
> glad for the access.  For example when I started using windows in =
> november
> of 1992 I understood the access was new and had bugs but I was happy =
> enough
> to be able to use windows just like my friends were doing and some of =
> the
> programs I needed were in windows so that access was grait.  Did it have
> problems oh yes you bet it did but I was to happy to have the access to
> these programs to conplain overly much instead I worked with the =
> createers
> of this access software to make it better.  So if it means not having =
> access
> to some thing or having a few bugs to deal with I for one would rather =
> have
> the access.  In the case of jaws though we should be getting updates =
> every
> few weeks though tell they get there act together. In other words =
> providing
> the access they have been saying they were going to give to remote =
> access
> servers.  Fixing the bugs in sertain functions like type current script =
> key.
> Yes this function does have problems and is used by a lot of scripters.  =
> Jfw
> loading the wrong scripts.  Jfw issues with msaa where it just stops =
> reading
> web pages.  Jfw not reading in internet explorer unless it is maxamized.
> Things like that we do not need to wait a long time for thoughs issues =
> to be
> addressed we need them addressed now now now.  So for my money once =
> again
> get it out get it out fast and make sure while you are getting it out =
> that
> the bugs get fixed and new features as needed get added. =20
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
> Behalf
> Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:31 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: update or new version of jfw?
>
>
> But for someone else's money, get it right first. Whose money is worth=20
> more?
>
> Bruce
>
> --=20
> Bruce Toews
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> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, jim grimsby wrote:
>
> > Well for my money get it out get it out fast and fix bugs as they come =
>
> > =3D up please and thank you!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
> =3D=20
> > Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:20 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: update or new version of jfw?
> >
> >
> > The reality is that FS is caught between a rock and a hard place in =
> =3D=20
> > terms=3D20 of PR when it comes to release dates. Release a product too =
>
> > soon, and =3D it's=3D20
> > bug-ridden, and everyone whines about how they should have wated. Wait =
> =3D
> > and=3D20
> > try to deal with bugs, and everyone whines about how the other guy got =
> =3D
> > it=3D20
> > out sooner, why can't they? There's no winning.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --=3D20
> > Bruce Toews
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> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):=20
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> >
> > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Chip Orange wrote:
> >
> >> Well, being a software developer myself, I know that release dates=20
> >> are =3D
> >
> >> always a tug of war between when you want it ready and when it =
> is=3D20=20
> >> really ready.  Different companies have differing policies as to=3D20 =
>
> >> exactly which wins in the struggle.
> >>
> >> =3D3D20
> >> Chip
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20=20
> >>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =3D
> >
> >>> On Behalf Of hank
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:06 PM
> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: update or new version of jfw?
> >>> =3D3D20
> >>> interesting they told me they didn't have a release date. funky
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Troy Burnham" <tburnham@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:30 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: update or new version of jfw?
> >>> =3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D20
> >>>> A friend of mine called FS the other day and was told that a=3D3D20
> >>> new version,
> >>>> probably 6.0, will be out around the end of the year I=3D3D20
> >>> think it was.  I
> >>>> don't know what will be in it though or if that is even=20
> >>>> accurate.=3D20 Troy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thursday 10/21/2004 01:17 PM, Jarrod Jicha said:
> >>>>> does anyone know or has anyone heard anything about when=3D3D20
> >>> either an update,
> >>>>> or a new version of jfw is coming out? was just wondering,=3D3D20
> >>> also, does
> >>>>> anyone either know, or have they heard what will be in the=3D3D20
> >>> new version?
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