office shortcut bar persists
- From: "Brian Albriton" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:59:43 -0800
Thanks all for the suggestions on getting rid of office shortcut bar.
It was suggested i go to the startr up option in the start menu and get =
rid of it there.
However, it does not show up in the strt up option.s
In fact, startup submenu is empty.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:41 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: onmouse over
Well, on my home page, the mouse-over links do nothing, so I
personalized the page to get rid of the verbiage. =20
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx=20
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of david poehlman
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:14 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: onmouse over
I've changed the topic <nothing against the poster of the message below=20
mine>, so that we can discuss this in its fullness.
I am with you. I don't understand why people would not want to hear=20
information which is so important as to be possibly vital almost as
vital=20
infact as hearing link or checkbox or radio button or button... I have
seen=20
complaints to web masters from people who turn off everything and then=20
wonder why the site doesn't work for them. Yes, the flexibility
available=20
in jaws is tantamount to daunting but it should be used with a lot of=20
thought. One of the things I like regarding the flexibility of jaws is
the=20
myriad ways to go through a page, you can use find for specific strings,
you=20
can use link lists, element lists, headings lists, jump from text block
to=20
text block, link to link, list to list, table to table, so many in fact
I'd=20
have to look them all up to publish them here.
If you look in the references for web site development, you'll find a
lot of=20
information about "onmouseover". It is important that we get to know
this=20
as well as we get to know any other fascette of a web page at the level
of=20
the anchor or button etc because as time goes buy, till all is
transformed=20
into something entirely different which will be inaccessible to jaws,
we'll=20
increasingly need to use it. It is also possible that jaws will improve
the=20
interface for it such that we can set it to show the changes in the same
space or announce that there are no changes or announce only those links
with Onmouseover which produce changes.
I hope this has helped because this is entirely the cause of this
writing=20
before 7 am in the morning edt.
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kathleen A. Millhoff" <kmilhoff@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:58 AM
Subject: RE: mouse over links
Hi, Interesting.
I've enjoyed reading this, but wondered why, if possible, people would
want to turn this feature off. Doesn't its existence provide necessary
information to understanding of a web site? I don't know enough to
understand all the facets of this discussion, but I usually want as much
info as possible and the mouse over links don't seem to interfere with
what I need to do. Thanks. best, kat
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of david poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:51 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: mouse over links
the answer I provided was not useless nor was it a non answer. It was
and still is and will remain till we are told otherwise, the correct
answer to the question. For one thing, the turning on and off of on
mouse over links is not even a subject for discussion on this list which
is why I posted my explanation which you no doubt have seen by now. For
another, We had this discussion a few days ago and it was carried in two
threads. The correct term for this element attribute is on mouse over
and the correct term for the question is how do I stop jaws from
indicating element attributes?
Since however, the question posed was: "how do I turn off mouse over
links, examining it provides a non sequetor but I deduced that the
question was
actually: "how do I turn off on mouse over links?" To which I still
respond, it is not currently possible to do this in jaws, but you might
want to suggest that it be provided as a function in a future version of
jaws.
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: mouse over links
Then instead of giving a useless nonanswer to the question, I suggest
that if you would rather not concern yourself wth a question that you
just delete the queston and move on.
Bruce
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, david poehlman wrote:
> yes, but it was exaustively discussed a few days ago.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: mouse over links
>
>
> Yes, but you know what was meant by the question.
>
> Bruce
>
>
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