Re: jfw Digest V1 #29

  • From: "Sarah" <simplyred@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:54:14 -0000

Can you tell me what you mean very strange display problem? as I don't no
what  you mean.  From Sarah
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Subject: jfw Digest V1 #29


> jfw Digest Sat, 31 Jan 2004 Volume: 01  Issue: 029
>
> In This Issue:
> Re: Anti Virus Software...
> Re: Anti Virus Software...
> RE: graphical pictures
> JFW50 and Fluency Dutch
> Fw: WINDOWEYES and JAWS users
> RE: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Re: Anti Virus Software...
> RE: Very Strange Display Problem
> Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Re: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Re: JFW50 and Fluency Dutch
> RE: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 08:25:58 +0000
> From: Chris Cant <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
>
> Hi Folks,
> another really good one that works with jfw is f-protect, the minimum
> requirements to run this is just 9 mb? the virus scan on my computer takes
> me 16 minutes and that's checking 140 gb's worth,  and regular updates are
> available each day, also it's just 29 dollars to keep it up for the year,
> one single licence can be used on 10 computers,  i have used this with
jaws
> for 8 years now and haven't needed to run spy where checkers it has this
> built in to the system it's great you can find this at
> www.f-prot.com
> you'd never know it's there working away? such a good little program very
> resource friendly!
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Cant.
>
> At 23:16 30/01/2004, you wrote:
> >The bigger the drives and the more you got on them yes, it does take time
> >to be good.
> >
> >At 02:17 PM 1/30/04 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Interesting...Norton generally takes over 8 hours to scan my computer
for
> > >viruses.
> > >Grant
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Karen
> > >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:07 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hello,
> > >   I don't have a problem with Norton, it catches my viruses, when I
have=
> > >    them, and if I use the JAWS cursor, it works fine. A lot of people
say=
> > >    that Norton's horrible, and that it takes up system resources, but
I=
> > >    haven't found this to be a problem. The only slight annoyance is
> > that it=
> > >    does slow things down when doing a system scan, but that's once a
week,=
> > >    and it's not the end of the world for me if I have to wait 20
minutes=
> > >    while it performs one. I know that I'm probably in the minority
when I
> > > say=
> > >    it works fairly well with JAWS, and that's alright.
> > >
> > >   *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > >
> > >   On 1/30/2004 at 1:56 PM Grant Hardy wrote:
> > >
> > >   >Hello,
> > >   >I can tell you now that I would not recommend Norton at all. This
is for
> > >   >two reasons. If you don't have an extremely fast computer, you'll
find
> > >   >that Norton greatly uses up your speed and system resources.  Also,
when
> > >   >Norton finds a virus, it pauses all of your applications until you
> > decide
> > >   >what to do, meaning you can't use JAWS to find out what's going on.
> > >   >I didn't know AVG may be charging for their anti-virus software
> > soon, but
> > >   >in the meantime I use it and it's extremely fast and reliable in my
> > >   >opinion.
> > >   >
> > >   >Grant
> > >   >  ----- Original Message -----
> > >   >  From: westmoors
> > >   >  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:44 PM
> > >   >  Subject: Anti Virus Software...
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >  Hi, it's me again, I'm afraid!
> > >   >
> > >   >  Sorted the issue of Firewalls, thanks everyone.
> > >   >
> > >   >  Now, Anti-Virus...
> > >   >
> > >   >  I have been using AVG's free version but that's well out of date,
> > >   >although
> > >   >  I've kept the virus definitions up to date.
> > >   >
> > >   >  I'm looking for suggestions as I've heard that AVG will soon be
> > charging
> > >   >for
> > >   >  the service.
> > >   >
> > >   >  I've got no problem about paying for a decent product but didn't
> > see the
> > >   >  need to pay for what was available for free up to now!
> > >   >
> > >   >  Anyone got any suggestions for good Anti-Virus?  I've heard lots
of=
> > >    views
> > >   >  over the years about Norton but they seem to have varied
somewhat, not
> > >   >sure
> > >   >  if that's to do with systems or with the different versions of
Norton.
> > >   >
> > >   >  What are the suggestions for good JFW friendly Anti-Virus
software?
> > >   >
> > >   >  Barry G
> > >   >  e-mail: westmoors@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >  MSN Contact: scorpasaur@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >
> > >   >  --
> > >   >  To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >  To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > >   >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
line.
> > >   >
> > >   >  If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> > >   >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > >   >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >--
> > >   >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > >   >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
line.
> > >   >
> > >   >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or=
> > >    the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
Rather=
> > >    contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >   Don't judge me because I'm blind--Judge me by what's inside. If you
> > judge=
> > >    me because I am blind, then it is you who is blind.
> > >   Music is my world, my hopes and the center of my dreams.
> > >   Love is a gift--Treasure it when it is given.   Contact Info:
> > >   EMAIL AND MSN: melody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   AIM: MelodyBunny1803
> > >   My waste of space in cyber space-- http://www.melody-rocks.com
> > >
> > >   --
> > >   To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
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> > >
> > >   If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
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> > > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >--
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> > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
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> > >
> > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
or
> > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >Tim
> >trouble
> >
> >--
> >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
> >
> >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
> >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>          Would  you want to join us in our new friendship group? Are you a
> friend who could supply support in access issues live on-line in a voice
> chat environment?
> Do you need help, would a good friend just make that difference to you?
> Then join us
> The accessible friends network could just be the place,
> To find out more please have a look at our home page
> www.tafn.org.uk
> read all about the party were putting together this year and what fun
we're
> going to have over the week-end we're planning!
> Chris Cant Chairman of TAFN
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "westmoors" <westmoors@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:42:55 -0000
>
> Hi Grant,
>
> Are you saying that you are running both AVG & Norton on the same
machines?
> I am assuming that they are not both on permanent scan of e mail etc?
>
> If you can run them both simultaneously then that's my answer but I hadn't
> thought that was possible, not for any particular reason other than
> expecting serious conflicts!!
>
> Can you confirm whether or not you do have both running all the time, or
do
> you just use one as a sentry and then use the other to do a disk scan
every
> so often?
> Barry G
> e-mail: westmoors@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> MSN Contact: scorpasaur@xxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:45 AM
> Subject: RE: Anti Virus Software...
>
>
> > Grant,
> >   I am using Norton 2003, 1.8 Athlon XP with 1 gig RAM, 80 Gig hd, XP
> > Home, JAWS 5.0.
> > I keep Norton current but, when I installed AVG it found some 17 little
> > viri lurking there. AVG has trapped a great number of things which
> > Norton seems to have missed. It does take Norton about 55 or so minutes
> > to do a scan and I usually don't do anything while it it running. JAWS
> > does work well with Norton while it is doing the scan. JAWS also works
> > well with AVG while AVG is scanning  and it takes AVG about 27 minutes
> > to do its scan. AVGT seems to do a good job of keeping track of would be
> > unwanted things but I do use both. CYS...
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Grant Hardy
> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:02 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
> >
> >
> > Well guys, I'm going to end this debate with these words: Norton
> > AntiVirus is slow on my computer. Period. I'm not saying anything about
> > it not working on other computers. Grant
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: trouble
> >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:15 PM
> >   Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
> >
> >
> >   Don't have a web interface here it all runs in the background when I
> > do
> >   scan. Mine has a active scan that looks at anything new coming in that
> > way
> >   it cuts down on doing a whole system scan when not needed. You many
> > want to
> >   try Norton corp it does only what you tell it to and no updating
> > yearly stuff.
> >
> >   At 02:23 PM 1/30/04 -0800, you wrote:
> >   >Hello,
> >   >Actually, that is not true. My norton was not even set to run at
> > startup,
> >   >and yet parts of it that you can't really disable still run. I guess
> > the
> >   >point is that it's faster on some computers than it is on others.
> >   >Mine, it is certainly not fast, and I detest the web interface it
> > loads up
> >   >because in order to view progress on the virus scans, one must
> > refresh the
> >   >page each time.
> >   >
> >   >Grant
> >   >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   From: trouble
> >   >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:08 PM
> >   >   Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   That only happens if you install everything to watch your system,
> > and if
> >   >   you don't set it to quarantine the virus. Ben running Norton for
> > five
> >   > years
> >   >   and never got a virus with it ran avg and got one of the oldest
> > viruses
> >   > out
> >   >   there w32 spaces.
> >   >
> >   >   At 01:56 PM 1/30/04 -0800, you wrote:
> >   >   >Hello,
> >   >   >I can tell you now that I would not recommend Norton at all. This
> > is for
> >   >   >two reasons. If you don't have an extremely fast computer, you'll
> > find
> >   >   >that Norton greatly uses up your speed and system resources.
> > Also, when
> >   >   >Norton finds a virus, it pauses all of your applications until
> > you decide
> >   >   >what to do, meaning you can't use JAWS to find out what's going
> > on.
> >   >   >I didn't know AVG may be charging for their anti-virus software
> > soon, but
> >   >   >in the meantime I use it and it's extremely fast and reliable in
> > my
> >   > opinion.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >Grant
> >   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   >   >   From: westmoors
> >   >   >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   >   Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:44 PM
> >   >   >   Subject: Anti Virus Software...
> >   >   >
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Hi, it's me again, I'm afraid!
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Sorted the issue of Firewalls, thanks everyone.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Now, Anti-Virus...
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   I have been using AVG's free version but that's well out of
> > date,
> >   > although
> >   >   >   I've kept the virus definitions up to date.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   I'm looking for suggestions as I've heard that AVG will soon
> > be
> >   >   > charging for
> >   >   >   the service.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   I've got no problem about paying for a decent product but
> > didn't
> >   > see the
> >   >   >   need to pay for what was available for free up to now!
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Anyone got any suggestions for good Anti-Virus?  I've heard
> > lots of
> >   > views
> >   >   >   over the years about Norton but they seem to have varied
> > somewhat,
> >   > not sure
> >   >   >   if that's to do with systems or with the different versions of
> > Norton.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   What are the suggestions for good JFW friendly Anti-Virus
> > software?
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   Barry G
> >   >   >   e-mail: westmoors@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   >   MSN Contact: scorpasaur@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   --
> >   >   >   To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   >   To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >   >   > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
> > subject line.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >   If you have any concerns about the list, post received from
> > the list,
> >   >   > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >   >   > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   >--
> >   >   >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >   >   >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
> > subject line.
> >   >   >
> >   >   >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list, or
> >   >   >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >   >   >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >
> >   >   Tim
> >   >   trouble
> >   >
> >   >   --
> >   >   To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >   To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >   > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
> > line.
> >   >
> >   >   If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
> > list,
> >   > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> > Rather
> >   > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >--
> >   >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> >   >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
> > line.
> >   >
> >   >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
> > or
> >   >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> >   >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >   Tim
> >   trouble
> >
> >   --
> >   To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
> >
> >   If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
> > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > --
> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > ---
> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/19/2004
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/19/2004
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
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> >
> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or
> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
contact
> the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "robert bennett" <opal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: graphical pictures
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:28:22 +1030
>
> Hi there Bruce,
>
> could you please tell me the proper email address for Blindtech?
>
>
> cheers.
>
> One fine day in the middle of the night
> two dead men got up to fight
>  two blind men to see fair play
> two deaf mutes to shout hooray
> a paralysed donkey standing by kicked the blind man in the eye
> he kicked him through a wooden brick wall into a dry ditch which drowned
> them all!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2004 7:11 AM
> To: 'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: graphical pictures
>
>
> A reminder again that blank subject lines are not acceptable, and this
> list is not for discussion of the graphical interfaces such as this.
> That's a better discussion for the Blindtech list.
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Bruce Toews
> E-Mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> For the best oldies anywhere go to http://www.treasureislandoldies.com
>
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Pickrell, Rebecca M. wrote:
>
> > Andrew, why not post the email address? I filled out their feedback form
> but
> > haven't heard anything.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Edgcumbe [mailto:andrew_edg@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:01 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re:
> >
> >
> > Hi Rebecca and list members
> >
> > I  did complain once about this issue.
> >
> > Yahoo said that they did have some complaints about the picture.
> >
> >
> > If anybody wants the email address to complain to yahoo please email me
> off
> > list.
> >
> > I feel if everybody on this list complains maybe they will listen.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > To: "Blind College Students (E-mail)"
> > <BlindVIcollegeStudents@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Blindtech (E-mail)"
> > <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "Jfwlite (E-mail)" <JFWlite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS and employment
> > (E-mail)" <jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:14 PM
> > Subject: FW:
> >
> >
> > > Hi folks. Here is the response I got from 0 spam along with my
question.
> > >
> > > These guys seem like good people.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Anderson [mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:12 AM
> > > To: Pickrell, Rebecca M.
> > > Subject: Re:
> > >
> > >
> > > The link is white as well as the background, so it can not be seen by
> > > regular people.  I could try to contact Yahoo and Hotmail about
> > implementing
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jeff Anderson
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <support@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:55 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi. I want to compliment 0 spam on its varification method.
> > > >
> > > > The link that blind people can click on which then allows the
> > varification
> > > > code to be emailed to the sender is wonderful.  I wish Yahoo and
> > Microsoft
> > > > along with a number of others would employ your method. As it stands
> > now,
> > > > Yahoo's method is of no help since they do not respond to phone
calls
> > and
> > > > email and Microsoft's varification (an audio of the word that needs
to
> > be
> > > > entered) is so garbled as to be nearly useless.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't mind sharing with me, how do you make the link so that
> only
> > > > screen-readers can use it?
> > > >
> > > > If this information is proprietory, would you mind sharing your idea
> > with
> > > > engineers at Yahoo and Microsoft?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca Pickrell
> > > > phone: 703-633-8300 x4582
> > > > email: rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
>
>
>
> ---
> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 1/09/2003
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Harald van.Breederode" <Harald.van.Breederode@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: JFW50 and Fluency Dutch
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:47:41 +0100
>
> Hi All,
> I am trying to get JFW50 to work with Fluency Dutch )a ducth software
speech synthsizer) but have failed so far. I have both products installed
but Jaws doesn't see the additional synthesizer.
>
> Is there anyone on this list who uses Fluency Dutch (or any other dutch
synthesizer)  with Jaws (either 451 or 50) and is willing to send me their
JFW.INI file to me?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards Harald.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Fw: WINDOWEYES and JAWS users
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:09:04 -0500
>
>
>
> From: Rob robmac03k@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.blind-users
>
> Hi,
>
> I have started a website for visually impaired people and computers. I am
in
> London. I am sighted but my father is totally blind. I am currently
working
> on transcribing Windows lessons for JAWS and WINDOWEYES users. There is
also
> Windows Media Audio files on the site for download.
>
> I am always looking for links and resources useful to Blind Internet
users.
>
> Rob
>
> http://www.blindspot.freeola.com
>
> Regards Steve,
> mailto:srp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> MSN Messenger:  internetuser383@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Alan Schlank" <aschlank@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:55:45 -0500
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> Have had much the same results.  Often it seems to occur when accessing
> Adobe through Internet Explorer.  Rarer, but still occurs, when I start
> Acrobat and directly access a pdf file.
>
> Alan Schlank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:35 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm running windows XP with JFW 5.0 and often when running Adobe reader
> 6, that program will freeze up and become very sluggish at best.  I can
> Alt-Tab to other programs, minimize all apps, and generally move around
> windows, but the system is extremely sluggish.  When this happens I
> close Adobe with an Alt F4 or some other method and then get the system
> message "this program is not responding " etcetera and I opt to "end
> task" and at that point the system returns to normal.
>
> It often happens when I use the Control-F search window from adobe, and
> often when I use the jaws cursor.  I can't detect any reliable pattern
> as to when or why it happens.
>
> I'm about to go into the preferences dialogs and see if there is a
> setting that jumps out at me, and if anyone has had this or a similar
> problem with adobe please let me know.
>
> Phil Halton
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "golden" <golden89@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:04:46 +0800
>
> Where can I get one?
> Can you give me its link? I presume it's a freeware. Am I right?
> thanks again.
>
> golden
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Hardy" <hardy_grant@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Anti Virus Software...
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I can tell you now that I would not recommend Norton at all. This is for
> two reasons. If you don't have an extremely fast computer, you'll find
that
> Norton greatly uses up your speed and system resources.  Also, when Norton
> finds a virus, it pauses all of your applications until you decide what to
> do, meaning you can't use JAWS to find out what's going on.
> > I didn't know AVG may be charging for their anti-virus software soon,
but
> in the meantime I use it and it's extremely fast and reliable in my
opinion.
> >
> > Grant
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: westmoors
> >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:44 PM
> >   Subject: Anti Virus Software...
> >
> >
> >   Hi, it's me again, I'm afraid!
> >
> >   Sorted the issue of Firewalls, thanks everyone.
> >
> >   Now, Anti-Virus...
> >
> >   I have been using AVG's free version but that's well out of date,
> although
> >   I've kept the virus definitions up to date.
> >
> >   I'm looking for suggestions as I've heard that AVG will soon be
charging
> for
> >   the service.
> >
> >   I've got no problem about paying for a decent product but didn't see
the
> >   need to pay for what was available for free up to now!
> >
> >   Anyone got any suggestions for good Anti-Virus?  I've heard lots of
> views
> >   over the years about Norton but they seem to have varied somewhat, not

> sure
> >   if that's to do with systems or with the different versions of Norton.
> >
> >   What are the suggestions for good JFW friendly Anti-Virus software?
> >
> >   Barry G
> >   e-mail: westmoors@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   MSN Contact: scorpasaur@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <jdiakoge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Very Strange Display Problem
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:47:11 -0500
>
> reinstall your video drivers.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Grant Hardy
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:51 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: Very Strange Display Problem
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Grant Hardy
> To: JFWLite List
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:21 PM
> Subject: Very Strange Display Problem
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This problem has me completely stumped.  I believe that by default, my
> display is set to 800x600 256 color.
> Yesterday, I have no idea what happened but I tried logging onto MSN
> Messenger, and it said that my color settings must be set to either 256 or
> greater.  Well, sure enough, it was set to something like 16 color, and I
do
> not seem to be able to access the computer with JAWS very well.
> Well, 256 colors is no longer an option from either the control
> panel/display, or from the context menu in the system tray.  ANY
suggestions
> would be appreciated.
>
> Grant
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "JDM" <sunnyday001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:11:48 +1100
>
> In reference to Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5, Alan Schlank writes,
"...had
> much the same results.  Often it seems to occur when accessing Adobe
through
> Internet Explorer..." <snip>
>
>     Yes, me too, had all the same troubles until I followed Tonia's advice
> on this list.  Tonia's advice was along the following lines...
> Tips about Acrobat Reader 5. (also seems to apply to Acrobat Reader 6 )
>
> You will find some PDF files on the web.  To (directly open in Acrobat
> Reader,) or to download the PDF to your hard drive instead of having it
open
> in your browser windows, run Acrobat Reader 5 (or 6) and press control K
for
> the preferences.  Arrow down to options and then tab until you find
display
> PDF in browser and
> uncheck it.  That way when you enter on a link for a PDF it will either
open
> up directly in a new Acrobat Reader window, or give
> you a download dialog and you can save the PDF to your hard drive.  Then
> just enter on the filename and it will open locally in Adobe Reader....
>
> Well, that worked for me, but I guess there are hundreds of possible
> combinations and permutations of hardware, software and individual
settings
> that influence and affect each and every circumstance?  But, its worth a
try
> if you,like me,  really need to access PDF documents.
>
> here, I'm running XP Home, JFW5 and Acrobat Reader 6.
> JDM
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:29:44 -0500
>
> and as I said before, the only way I can download to the hard drive is to
> right click on a file even though I have adobe reader 6 set not to open
the
> files in ie.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JDM" <sunnyday001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:11 PM
> Subject: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
>
>
> In reference to Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5, Alan Schlank writes,
"...had
> much the same results.  Often it seems to occur when accessing Adobe
through
> Internet Explorer..." <snip>
>
>     Yes, me too, had all the same troubles until I followed Tonia's advice
> on this list.  Tonia's advice was along the following lines...
> Tips about Acrobat Reader 5. (also seems to apply to Acrobat Reader 6 )
>
> You will find some PDF files on the web.  To (directly open in Acrobat
> Reader,) or to download the PDF to your hard drive instead of having it
open
> in your browser windows, run Acrobat Reader 5 (or 6) and press control K
for
> the preferences.  Arrow down to options and then tab until you find
display
> PDF in browser and
> uncheck it.  That way when you enter on a link for a PDF it will either
open
> up directly in a new Acrobat Reader window, or give
> you a download dialog and you can save the PDF to your hard drive.  Then
> just enter on the filename and it will open locally in Adobe Reader....
>
> Well, that worked for me, but I guess there are hundreds of possible
> combinations and permutations of hardware, software and individual
settings
> that influence and affect each and every circumstance?  But, its worth a
try
> if you,like me,  really need to access PDF documents.
>
> here, I'm running XP Home, JFW5 and Acrobat Reader 6.
> JDM
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Steve Britt" <swimmer953@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: JFW50 and Fluency Dutch
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:28:37 -0600
>
> One thing that comes to mind, Harald, is that Jaws may be seeing Fluency
> Dutch as an external synthesizer. So, if you haven't done this already,
you
> might want to go into your default Jaws configuration file, synthesizer
> settings, and check where it says something like "allow external software
> synthesizers."
> Also, it might make a difference which of the two programs loads first
when
> you reboot.
> I hope this helps.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harald van.Breederode" <Harald.van.Breederode@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:47 AM
> Subject: JFW50 and Fluency Dutch
>
>
> Hi All,
> I am trying to get JFW50 to work with Fluency Dutch )a ducth software
speech
> synthsizer) but have failed so far. I have both products installed but
Jaws
> doesn't see the additional synthesizer.
>
> Is there anyone on this list who uses Fluency Dutch (or any other dutch
> synthesizer)  with Jaws (either 451 or 50) and is willing to send me their
> JFW.INI file to me?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards Harald.
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Aman Singer" <aman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:36:33 -0500
>
> Hi.
> Try downloading Adobe Reader 6.01. It's less prone to crashes, and
> seems, from a few tests I've done here, to leave the files alone when you
> click on them in the usual way in IE.
> Aman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of David Poehlman
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:30 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
>
> and as I said before, the only way I can download to the hard drive is to
> right click on a file even though I have adobe reader 6 set not to open
the
> files in ie.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JDM" <sunnyday001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:11 PM
> Subject: Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5.0
>
>
> In reference to Adobe 6 freeze-up with Jaws 5, Alan Schlank writes,
"...had
> much the same results.  Often it seems to occur when accessing Adobe
through
> Internet Explorer..." <snip>
>
>     Yes, me too, had all the same troubles until I followed Tonia's advice
> on this list.  Tonia's advice was along the following lines...
> Tips about Acrobat Reader 5. (also seems to apply to Acrobat Reader 6 )
>
> You will find some PDF files on the web.  To (directly open in Acrobat
> Reader,) or to download the PDF to your hard drive instead of having it
open
> in your browser windows, run Acrobat Reader 5 (or 6) and press control K
for
> the preferences.  Arrow down to options and then tab until you find
display
> PDF in browser and
> uncheck it.  That way when you enter on a link for a PDF it will either
open
> up directly in a new Acrobat Reader window, or give
> you a download dialog and you can save the PDF to your hard drive.  Then
> just enter on the filename and it will open locally in Adobe Reader....
>
> Well, that worked for me, but I guess there are hundreds of possible
> combinations and permutations of hardware, software and individual
settings
> that influence and affect each and every circumstance?  But, its worth a
try
> if you,like me,  really need to access PDF documents.
>
> here, I'm running XP Home, JFW5 and Acrobat Reader 6.
> JDM
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