Hi All, It looks like FS has largely been able to solve my problem with JFW 6.0 on my XP Home machine being too chatty when I hit Windows key-M or Win Key-D to go to my desktop. JAWS is still saying Desktop Folder View List view and the name of the item on my desktop, but it is a vast improvement on what it was saying and I can live with the "extra" folder view" if I can't get rid of it. Here's the response I received from FS: Dear Margaret Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support. You will want to use the settings below for windows xp: 1. minimize all applications (windows key+m) 2. Unselect the item if it's checked (control+spacebar) 3. Activate the context menu (windows application key) note: this is the key to the left of the right control key on standard windows keyboards. 4. Press the letter r to activate the display properties 5. on the Themes Page: set to windows xp. To change press alt plus down arrow to open 6. Control Tab to the Desktop Tab Set background to bliss Set position stretch 7. Press Control Tab to Screen Saver Set to none] 8. Control Tab to Appearance Tab Set to Windows Classic Style Color Scheme Windows Standard Font Size Normal 9. Control+tab to the settings tab, color: 16 bit resolution: 1024 by 768 10. Tab to okay and hit enter Suggestions for setting up folders in Windows XP 1. Hold down the Windows key and press the letter M to get to the desktop. 2. Press M for my computer and press Enter. 3. Press Alt plus t and up arrow to Folder Options and press Enter. 4. When on the general tab, set tasks to use Windows Classic Folders. Set to Open folders in the same Window. 5. Tab to OK and press Enter. If you continue to have too much speaking, you can change the verbosity level with the steps below: 1. Activate the configuration manager "insert+number row 6" 2. Load the default.jcf file "control+shift+d" 3. Pull up the set options menu "alt+s" 4. Press the letter v to open the verbosity dialog 5. Arrow down to the desired verbosity level 6. Tab to okay and hit enter 7. Save the change "control+s" 8. Exit the manager "alt+f4" In some cases, it is necessary to restart JAWS to notice the change with this setting. If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter when replying to this message so that we might better assist you. Regards, Tracey Jackson, Technical Support Specialist Freedom Scientific Blind/Low Vision Group -- Henter-Joyce, Blazie, and Arkenstone Phone support: 727 803 8600, option #2 E-mail Support: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Visit our website at: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Our Mission To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products and services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use to change their world. Margaret Previously I wrote: I'm hoping I can get JAWS 6.0 to be less verbose with Windows XP Home when I hit Windows key-M or Windows key-D to get to My Desktop. With the former, JFW says "Folder View List View" and reads the names of several items on my Desktop such as My Documents, Outlook Express, etc. JAWS 6.0 was better behaved on my Win 98 se machine and just said something like "My Computer" or "My Desktop." When I hit Windows key-D, JAWS reads several items in my Desktop and it's almost as annoying. I thought maybe I could quiet it down by using the steps for getting rid of the infamous "Read only edit" and look for "folder view" instead of "Read only edit," but I don't find "Folder View" in the list view that "Read only edit" is in. I did find "Desktop Speak Control Type Using NormalVoice " which sounds promising, but I wanted to double check before I went ahead and did it. Will this do the trick or is there another setting somewhere that should be changed? Thank you, -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx