Re[4]: Jaws virtual buffering may effect web page loading [was] What is the fastest internet browser that works with Jaws?

  • From: orhan deniz <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Gerald Levy <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:52:24 +0100

Hi  Gerald,
You  can't  just judge firefox after short term use. I've
been using the program for about one year on and off. It has come to a
time  where  I make it my diffult browser. Sure, there are querks, but
isn't there with anything? Most people don't use there web browser for
RSS feed reading, they use another service.

HTH,

Best regards,
Orhan.
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On Sunday, 13 July 2008 3:47:19 PM, Gerald Levy
bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx Wrote:
> I just installed Mozilla Firefox to see what all the hubbub was about, and I 
> must say that I am pretty disappointed.  Using a 750 kbps DSL Internet 
> connection, Firefox does not seem to download web pages any faster than IE. 
> And despite all the hype, it does not appear to be any more JAWS friendly 
> than IE.  Its biggest shortcoming as far as I'm concerned, is its lack of 
> support for RSS feeds.  I'm sure there are add-ons for this, but overall, 
> I'm not impressed with Firefox and will stick with IE for now.


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jaws virtual buffering may effect web page loading [was] 
> What is the fastest internet browser that works with Jaws?


>> Orhun,
>>
>> Thanks for mentioning this critical fact about Jaws and page loading. The
>> need for Jaws to load its virtual buffer as part of the process certainly
>> does add an extra challenge, and extra time, that's a good thing for a 
>> Jaws
>> user like me to keep in mind while trying to estimate page loading
>> performance.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "orhan deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Yardbird" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 12:25 AM
>> Subject: Re[2]: Jaws virtual buffering may effect web page loading [was]
>> What is the fastest internet browser that works with Jaws?
>>
>>
>> Hi Yardbird,
>>   Relating this to jaws, you do realise that because of the jaws
>>   virtual buffering, pages due take a little to load because jaws has
>>   to process them.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Orhan.
>> --
>> On 13/07/2008,  8:22:40 AM, Yardbird
>> yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Wrote:
>>> Okay. No problem. Nice to hear from you.
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "James Homuth" <james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: What is the fastest internet browser that works with Jaws?
>>
>>
>>> I'm calling you out publicly for it now. That kind of commentary
>>> isn't called for, and you know better than that. Now drop it.
>>
>>> James,
>>> List Admin
>>> At 03:59 PM 12/07/2008, you wrote:
>>>>My goodness. Bruce, I'm really surprised that you've gone and castigated
>>>>me
>>>>publicly, even after I attempted to model a better and more discreet
>>>>approach so recently. I guess the road to Damascus really twists and 
>>>>turns
>>>>and has a lot of switchbacks for some people.
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Bruce Toews" <KetchupBoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:18 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: What is the fastest internet browser that works with Jaws?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Let it go. For one thing, this is not JAWS related, and for another, I
>>>>don't know how many more times we can say the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>Bruce
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Yardbird wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > You mean, rather than wait about two or three seconds while the page
>>>> > loads,
>>>> > it simply snaps into view instantaneously, as if you'd done nothing
>>>> > more
>>>> > than alt Tab between two running applications? If that's how it is,
>>>> > I'll
>>>> > say
>>>> > that of course I'd notice the difference. But I'd also say it scarcely
>>>> > matters to me. Like others, I remember the years during which I clung
>>>> > to
>>>> > my
>>>> > old dial-up Internet connection before I finally followed a friend's
>>>> > advice
>>>> > and went DSL. Now, that change made the dial-up look so primitive that
>>>> > I
>>>> > wondered how I'd endured the waiting. But the difference between a
>>>> > couple
>>>> > of
>>>> > seconds passing while a Web page loads, and the luxury of having it
>>>> > load
>>>> > instantaneously as if it were just a screen of some program on my own
>>>> > computer, that's scarcely an annoyance to me. This isn't in my humble
>>>> > opinion, exactly. It's more like just how I feel about it. I'm not in
>>>> > the
>>>> > least suggesting that anyone else should feel as I do.
>>>> >
>>>> > And finally, I would  not even think of denying that if I were to
>>>> > upgrade
>>>> > my
>>>> > upload/download speeds to the max available to me, I wouldn't find the
>>>> > improvement gratifying or at least fun. I'm just saying, given my
>>>> > modest
>>>> > budget, the speed I have is perfectly all right with me and not a
>>>> > source
>>>> > of
>>>> > stress.
>>>> >
>>>> > I hope this is clear. I also think this thread ought to close out,
>>>> > already.
>>>> > I'm not going to keep posting to it anymore, anyway.
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Orhan Deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:44 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: What is the fastest internet browser that works with 
>>>> > Jaws?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Quite noticeable imho.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > HTH,
>>>> > Orhan Deniz.
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>>>> > Orhan.Deniz63@xxxxxxxxx
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>>>> > orhan1793@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Friday, July 11, 2008 10:35 PM Yardbird wrote:
>>>> >> Really? Is the difference significant? I mean, are we talking an 
>>>> >> extra
>>>> >> minute to download a page from The New York times? Or a few seconds?
>>>> >> Half a second? Just want to get some idea of what kind of speed
>>>> >> difference we're talking about. thanks.
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Brandon B" <serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 2:03 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: What is the fastest internet browser that works with
>>>> >> Jaws?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, if I'm not mistaken, firefox loads and renders pages faster then
>>>> >> any other accessible browser on the windows side.
>>>> >> Yardbird wrote:
>>>> >>> Hi Brandon,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> What do you mean by saying one browser is faster than another? Do
>>>> >>> you mean that when you click on a link or run a Google search, it
>>>> >>> finds and loads your Web page more quickly than the other browser is
>>>> >>> able to? Thanks. ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Brandon B"<serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:26 PM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: What is the fastest internet browser that works with
>>>> >>> Jaws?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The fastest browser is probably Mozilla Firefox 3. get it from
>>>> >>> http://www.getfirefox.com
>>>> >>> livingfearless01@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> What is the fastest internet browser that works with Jaws. I use
>>>> >>>> internet explorer but it's to slow.
>>>> >>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>> >>>>
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