I just installed the beta, though I've been following the conversation with some interest. My first observation is that I am unable to use JFW in laptop mode. Keeps switching to desktop. And secondly, (someone might have mentioned this) in an outlook email it is not reading to me when I arrow through a message. It will read the whole message with the say all command, but not read when I arrow around. Is there a setting I need to change? Thanks, Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Bartlett Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 4:37 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: JFW 12 Re: the ribbon, I would recommend using the virtual ribbon to familiarize yourself with where something can be found in the real ribbon structure. While the presentation is different, the structure is, I believe, exactly analogous. Once you have learned where to find something, switch back to the native ribbon, go find it again and listen for the access keys to memorize. This leverages the ease of use of the virtual ribbon with the access keys of the normal ribbon. It's a less-than-ideal solution, but until FS figures out how to put the access keys into their virtual ribbon, it's the best way I can think of to learn the keyboard shortcuts. Christopher Bartlett -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx