Re: JAWS spelling

  • From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:12:14 -0500

I have the same issue with a USB numpad on this ThinkPad and finally just bit 
the bullet and learned familiarity with the Jaws function on the notebook 
keyboard. I still don't know how to do phonetic spelling though.


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adrian Spratt 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: JAWS spelling 


  Hi, Flor and Vicki.

  I didn't want to extend this thread unhelpfully, but your latest message, 
Flor, encourages me to report an experience of mine, just in case it bears on 
the issue after all.

  I have my laptop set to work with JAWS with the desktop keyboard setting and 
have extended the laptop keyboard by adding a USB numpad.  JAWS works as it is 
supposed to with that numpad except that it doesn't speak at all when I press 
numpad 5 with numlock off.  For example, it won't read a character, never mind 
give a phonetic representation.

  Vicki, I recall early in this thread that you said earlier versions of JAWS 
operated fine on her numpad, so on the face of it my experience isn't relevant. 
 Still, maybe there is a numpad function problem only tangentially related to 
JAWS, or this version of it.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Flor Lynch 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:09 AM
    Subject: Re: JAWS spelling 


    Do you mean, it is silent whenever you press it, that JAWS does nothing?  
(If you press it once, it should say the current character.  What about other
    keys on this numpad when the numlock is off?  Do they all work as they 
should with JAWS?  (Does numpad5 do anything if you're in insert+1 JAWS Help?) 
    Try another numpad.   

    We were, I reckon now, barking up the wrong tree altogether with the 
phonetic spelling issue for this problem, interesting in its way though that 
was. 
    (In that regard, however, it might have helped  - and it would help in JAWS 
if FS did this - to define terms if we'd spoken of phonetic pronunciation rather
    than phonetic spelling!)   

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Vicki Wherry 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:14 AM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    It doesn't matter how many times I press the key. Nothing happens. I'm 
using my laptop right now with a USB external numpad. I have it set to desktop 
keyboard
    layout, and I've never had this problem before. I'm trying to locate 
another numpad just to make sure it's not my numpad. The number 5 seems to work 
when
    I use it as a numpad for number entries, though.  

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Flor Lynch 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:52 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    It seems a repair of JAWS might be the option.  When you hit numpad5 twice 
quickly, is it the same as if you hit it just once?  If you hit it three times,
    you should be getting the ANSI character number.  Are you using a standard 
Windows keyboard?  If not, there's further room for querying.   

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Vicki Wherry 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:24 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    Judith, actually, I don't think you blundered at all. I just wanted to use 
the term that Freedom Scientific used so that people would know what I was 
talking
    about. So far no one has been able to figure it out. 
    Vicki

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Judith Bron 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:05 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    I guess that everything has been redefined, sorry for the blunder.  Judith

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Vicki Wherry 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:54 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    The term used is spelling Phonetically. Below is the direct command from 
the JAWS help: 
    Say Character Phonetically 
    NUM PAD 5 twice quickly   

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Judith Bron 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:37 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    I don't know what this way is referred to but it is not phonetic.  This is 
using alternate words to spell out a word so that the user knows which letter
    is which by means of using unrelated words for each letter.  For example 
the word many:
    mary, apple, nancy, yesterday 
    I wish I knew what this way of spelling was but I don't.  Judith

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Vicki Wherry 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling
    Here is an example. I want JAWS to spell  the word wade phonetically. It 
would spell it whiskey alpha delta echo. And BTW, just spelling the word with 
insert
    numpad 5 doesn't work either. 
    Vicki 

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Yardbird 
    To: 
    jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:31 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws spelling 
    Vicki, 
    Are you sure you mean phonetically?  Don't you just mean spelling things 
out, character by character?  Because if you really are talking about having 
things
    spelled phonetically for you, there's a way to set that in the 
Configuration manager, and someone else here can probably direct you where to 
find that
    specific setting. 
    but if you just mean the default way that Jaws spells out a word when you 
press Insert 5 as you describe, Insert 5,5, then that isn't phonetic. 
    Just to get straight what it is that you're after.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Vicki Wherry 
    To: 
    JFW List 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:03 AM
    Subject: jaws spelling 
    I'm using JAWS 7.1, and for some reason, I can't get it to spell 
    phonetically in any application. I'm pressing numpad 5 twice quickly like I 
    always did, and it won't work in any program. Is there a setting I need to 
    change? 

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