JAWS 8.0 problem with Sappy voices

  • From: Guy Barlow HR Workforce Information & Analysis Officer <Guy.Barlow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:48:12 -0000

Good Afternoon


I have just installed 8.0  and was keen to experience the Sappy 5 voices
within Say All for a MS Word document.  I installed the RealTech Voice CD
and it promted me to restart JAWS to enable the voices to work. I did just
so and long be hold there was no change  in the eloquence  voice. Would
anybody be able to advise me as to how I can get this exciting  feature
working.
Regards
        Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Diamond
Sent: 21 December 2006 16:05
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?

Hey! that would be 3 on 1

Grin
Tony
They say it takes a minute to find a special person,
An hour to appreciate them,
A day to love them,
But an entire life to forget them.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?


> Hey Alison. I like you're quote. Not sure I agree with it, but can
> appreciate it.
>
> Where's Monica when we need her!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Allison Mervis
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:25 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>
> Roflmfao!
> Allison
>
> my credo:
> Clinton lied, nothing happened
> Bush lied, thousands died
> and thus far, over 3,000 have sustained permanent brain injuries
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:54 AM
> Subject: RE: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>
>
>> My source at FS tells me that Rodney will be jumping out of the cake.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Diamond
>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:37 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>
>> Does that mean that Rodney got his invitation???
>>
>> Smile
>> Tony
>> They say it takes a minute to find a special person, An hour to
>> appreciate them, A day to love them, But an entire life to forget
> them.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>
>>
>>> Guys,
>>> You are reading these messages all out of order, or not catching up.
>> Let
>>> me
>>> be clear about this. A man named Dean Marttineau, who for any of you
>> who
>>> don't recognize his name, is a major source of good information and
>>> technical instruction in this online community. chimed in much
> earlier
>>
>>> today
>>> and responded to my inquiry by reassuring me that Freedom Scientific
>>> wasn't
>>> going to take a whole week off, as I'd heard that GW Micro was, but
>> only
>>> Christmas and New year's, like most companies.  I said thanks, and
>> that
>>> was
>>> that.  But since then, hours ago, people keep posting messages
>> taunting me
>>> for having asked the question and generally acting like flame freaks.
>>> This
>>> is really silly.
>>>
>>> Thank you everyone for getting it all straight now.  Holiday best to
>>> everyone.
>>> holidays----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "MV" <megavend@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectively, can we put an end to this thread and all agree FS will
>> be
>>> closed sometime for the holiday and if unsure exactly when, ring them
>> and
>>> ask?  My inbox thanks you. :)
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 07:59 PM 12/20/2006, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Can't wait to hear what?
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:44 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Can't wait to hear it!
>>>>Allison
>>>>
>>>>my credo:
>>>>Clinton lied, nothing happened
>>>>Bush lied, thousands died
>>>>and thus far, over 3,000 have sustained permanent brain injuries
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:33 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Would you mind not harrassing me with thewse moronic comments?
>> Thanks,
>>>> > and
>>>> > have a lovely holiday,.
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
>>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:04 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > oh yes great great. thanks, thanks. and Freedom will be closed
> next
>>>> > week.
>>>> > Eric Damory and the gang are having a party. Prime rib. lots of
>> booze,
>>>> > and
>>>> > swimming in the beautiful Florida ocean. If you don't receive an
>>>> > invitation,
>>>> > that means you were not invited.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > my web site
>>>> > www.11954.com/gomes
>>>> > phone 720-747-4990
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:29 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Thanks for the kind words, Rodney, and good luck with everything.
>> The
>>>> >> great
>>>> >> thing about a list like this is that we can all help each other,
>> so
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> good
>>>> >> karma goes around and around and nourishes our souls as much as
> it
>>>> >> enriches
>>>> >> our skills.  Hope your holidays are warm and that the New year
>> brings
>>>> >> good
>>>> >> health and lots of satisfactions.
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Rodney Neely" <blindlion@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:23 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yardbird, you seem like a really nice person.  Best of luck with
>> your
>>>> >> writing career.  I have considered doing some writing too.  We
> all
>>
>>>> >> need
>>>> >> people who are technically oriented to help us because we are so
>>>> >> dependent
>>>> >> on the computer to access information etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rodney Neely
>>>> >> blindlion@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:22 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Hi Rodney,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> thanks for being understanding about the name thing.  I know
> that
>> the
>>>> >>> handle
>>>> >>> sometimes confuses people especially if they're using a screen
>> reader
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> hear it spoken in the JFW Say All mode, and then try to imagine
>> how
>>>> >>> it's
>>>> >>> written.  But this handle was the nickname of the famous jazz
>> alto
>>>> >>> sax
>>>> >>> player Charlie parker (whom fans and friends called "Bird," for
>>>> >>> short),
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> the Sixties English rock group The Yardbirds used the name as a
>>>> >>> tribute.
>>>> >>> I'm not a professional musician, although I do play a couple of
>>>> >>> instruments,
>>>> >>> including saxophone, but I'm a devoted jazz fan and that's how I
>>>> >>> picked
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> handle for myself when I established this email account.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> As far as work goes, I'm afraid I can't say anything very
>> helpful.
>>>> >>> first
>>>> >>> of
>>>> >>> all, there seem to be a number of folks on this list who have it
>> all
>>>> >>> over
>>>> >>> me, in terms of technical expertise.  And my own kind of work is
>> very
>>>> >>> different.  I'm a writer, formerly a feature writer for a
>> Hollywood
>>>> >>> film
>>>> >>> industry magazine, and now working exclusively on essays and
>> other
>>>> >>> literary
>>>> >>> projects.  What I've learned about computers and screen readers
>> owes
>>>> >>> a
>>>> >>> lot
>>>> >>> to having lost enough sight so that I had to start using Jaws,
>> and
>>>> >>> then
>>>> >>> learned a lot from people on lists like this one.  So I'm more
>> the
>>>> >>> student
>>>> >>> than the teacher.  And when things really get difficult, one of
>> my
>>>> >>> best
>>>> >>> friends is an I T professional, and he helps me out of a lot of
>>>> >>> serious
>>>> >>> jams.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But I hope if you ask around on these lists, someone can help
> you
>>>> >>> figure
>>>> >>> out
>>>> >>> some ways in which to help your friend in his or her search for
>> good
>>>> >>> employment.  Best of luck with that, and good for you just for
>> trying
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> network around and get some advice.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Rodney Neely" <blindlion@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:41 AM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Okay, Yardbird.  I apologize for not reading your message more
>>>> >>> carefully
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> for capitalizing your screen-name incorrectly.
>>>> >>> How do you use your familiarity with Jaws to make a living?
>>>> >>> Do you work with computers to provide tech support or something
>> like
>>>> >>> that?
>>>> >>> The reason that I am asking this is that I have a friend who has
>> your
>>>> >>> level
>>>> >>> of knowledge when it comes to using Jaws effectively.  He is a
>> great
>>>> >>> computer user, but he has had a difficult time finding his nitch
>> in
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> world of work.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Rodney Neely
>>>> >>> blindlion@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:28 AM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Hello Rodney,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> It seems you misunderstood a couple of things in my message.
>> Let me
>>>> >>>> ttry
>>>> >>>> again. What I asked was if anyone happened to know whether FS
>> will
>>>> >>>> be
>>>> >>>> closed
>>>> >>>> from Christmas through New Year's.  If you don't know, that's
>> fine.
>>>> >>>> Sorry
>>>> >>>> if something I asked in my message wasn't clear.  Also, I use
>> only
>>>> >>>> Jaws
>>>> >>>> as
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> screen reader.  If you reread my message, I hope you'll see
> that
>> I
>>>> >>>> didn't
>>>> >>>> say I was subscribed to a Window Eyes list, if that's what you
>>>> >>>> thought.
>>>> >>>> So
>>>> >>>> I can't advise you about that product, sorry.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> last, unless you're just trying to be funny, the handle is
>> Yardbird,
>>>> >>>> one
>>>> >>>> single word.  It's an old traditional nickname you may not be
>>>> >>>> familiar
>>>> >>>> with.
>>>> >>>> It isn't a first and last name, nor is it a high tech product
>> name
>>>> >>>> with
>>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> capital in the middle of it.  I hope that's more clear.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Holiday best to you and yours,
>>>> >>>> yardbird
>>>> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:09 AM
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> YardBird:
>>>> >>>> You seem to be very knowledgeable about Jaws, Freedom
> Scientific
>>
>>>> >>>> etc.
>>>> >>>> But you seem to have a great deal of time on your hands to post
>> to
>>>> >>>> lists
>>>> >>>> etc.  What type of work do you do as a profession?  How do you
>> use
>>>> >>>> Jaws
>>>> >>>> with
>>>> >>>> this type of work?  Also, you might want to write me off-list
>> about
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> second question in my email message.
>>>> >>>> Do you think that I should consider purchasing Windoweyes?  If
>> so,
>>>> >>>> why?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I hope that the employees at Freedom Scientific and GW Micro
>> enjoy
>>>> >>>> their
>>>> >>>> vacations, if they get some time off for the holidays.
>>>> >>>> I also hope that everyone on the list has a nice holiday.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Rodney Neely
>>>> >>>> blindlion@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:08 AM
>>>> >>>> Subject: Will Freedom Scientific be closed all next week?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I just heard on another list that GW Micro (Window eyes) is
>> going
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> be
>>>> >>>>> closed all next week, from Christmas through New Year's.  Does
>>>> >>>>> anyone
>>>> >>>>> know
>>>> >>>>> if Freedom Scientific is planning to do the same thing?  If
> so,
>> I'd
>>>> >>>>> better
>>>> >>>>> order my SMA renewal before Friday  to get it at the reduced
>> price,
>>>> >>>>> even
>>>> >>>>> though I'm in a snit for the moment because their Jaws 8
>> shipment
>>>> >>>>> has
>>>> >>>>> failed
>>>> >>>>> to reach me all the way until now.  Just feeling too annoyed
> to
>>
>>>> >>>>> pony
>>>> >>>>> up
>>>> >>>>> more
>>>> >>>>> money while they screw around delivering what I've already
> paid
>>
>>>> >>>>> for.
>>>> >>>>> And
>>>> >>>>> with reportedly chintzy, insecure packaging, at that.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Anybody happen to know?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> --
>>>> >>>>> JFW related links:
>>>> >>>>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >>>>> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >>>>>
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >>>>> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >>>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >>>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
>> subject
>>>> >>>>> line.
>>>> >>>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from
> the
>>>> >>>>> list,
>>>> >>>>> or
>>>> >>>>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
>> Rather
>>>> >>>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> JFW related links:
>>>> >>>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >>>> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >>>> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
>> subject
>>>> >>>> line.
>>>> >>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>>>> >>>> list,
>>>> >>>> or
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>> >>>> contact
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> >>>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.25/593 - Release
> Date:
>>>> >>>> 12/19/2006
>>>> >>>> 1:17 PM
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> JFW related links:
>>>> >>>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >>>> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >>>> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
>> subject
>>>> >>>> line.
>>>> >>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>>>> >>>> list,
>>>> >>>> or
>>>> >>>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
>> Rather
>>>> >>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> JFW related links:
>>>> >>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >>> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >>> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
>> subject
>>>> >>> line.
>>>> >>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>> list,
>>>> >>> or
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>> >>> contact
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> >>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
>>>> >>> 12/20/2006
>>>> >>> 3:54 PM
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> JFW related links:
>>>> >>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >>> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >>> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
>> subject
>>>> >>> line.
>>>> >>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>> list,
>>>> >>> or
>>>> >>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
>> Rather
>>>> >>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> JFW related links:
>>>> >> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
> subject
>>>> >> line.
>>>> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>> list,
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>> >> contact
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> >> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
>>>> >> 12/20/2006
>>>> >> 3:54 PM
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> JFW related links:
>>>> >> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> >> Scripting mailing list:
>>>> >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> >> JFW List instructions:
>>>> >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the
> subject
>>>> >> line.
>>>> >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>> list,
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
>> Rather
>>>> >> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > JFW related links:
>>>> > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> > Scripting mailing list:
>>>> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> > JFW List instructions:
>>>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>> > line.
>>>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >
>>>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>> list,
>>>> > or
>>>> > the
>>>> > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> contact
>>>> > the
>>>> > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
>>>> > 12/20/2006
>>>> > 3:54 PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > JFW related links:
>>>> > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>> > Scripting mailing list:
>>>> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>> > JFW List instructions:
>>>> > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>> > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>>>> > line.
>>>> > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>> >
>>>> > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the
>> list,
>>>> > or
>>>> > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list.
> Rather
>>>> > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>JFW related links:
>>>>JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>>Scripting mailing list:
>>>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>>JFW List instructions:
>>>>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>> line.
>>>>Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>>
>>>>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>> or
>>>>the
>>>>way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> contact
>>>>the
>>>>list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>>Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
>>>>12/20/2006
>>>>3:54 PM
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>JFW related links:
>>>>JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>>>Scripting mailing list:
>>>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>>>JFW List instructions:
>>>>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>> line.
>>>>Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>>
>>>>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>> or
>>>>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>>>contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JFW related links:
>>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>> Scripting mailing list:
>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>> JFW List instructions:
>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>> line.
>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>
>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>> or
>>> the
>>> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>> contact
>>> the
>>> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date:
>>> 12/20/2006
>>> 3:54 PM
>>>
>>> --
>>> JFW related links:
>>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
>>> Scripting mailing list:
>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
>>> JFW List instructions:
>>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
>>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject
>> line.
>>> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw
>>>
>>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list,
>> or
>>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
>>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>
>> --
>> JFW related links:
>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
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