Hello: You just missed a round of discussions on this list about Google Docs. I think several use certain Google applications with some success, including G Mail; however, Google Docs is an access disaster. None of the screen reader makers even try. Well, I talked personally to technical support at Freedom Scientific, GW Micro, and Serotek. All immediately described Google Docs as completely inaccessible. I've tried Google Docs. The suite of applications is supposed to be a free, on-line equivalent to Microsoft Office. There is even an article in the help section of the on-line manual devoted to "Access with a Screen Reader." It is all a fraud. None of it works. Three cheers for NFB in taking on Google. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Lee Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:05 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Google Apps With Jaws Hi, I'm new to the list, and I hope to learn about Jaws from many of you, and hopefully I can be help as well. I heard some of the colleges are switching to Google apps, and I think NFB is concerned with the accessibility and suing some of the colleges. http://www.nfb.org/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=771 The website has demonstration on how Google apps are inaccessible, but in my opinion they're picking on it little too much. Anyways, my school is also planning to switch as well, and they wanted my opinion on it. Besides Google docs, major Google apps seem to work OK for me even though their web interfaces are little clumsy. In fact, the web interface that my school currently use is worse than Gmail. With Gmail, I would gain iMap instead of pop3 too! What I like about Google apps is that I can use Thunderbird and iPhone to use Gmail, Google Calendar, and Google Contacts, and they work quite nicely because I don't have to deal with web interface. Even with web interface, I think it's manageable. I guess I just wanted to find out your opinions on Google apps because what works for me might not be the case for others. Do you think Google apps are notoriously bad with screen readers? Thanks, JL -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ############################################################################################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. ############################################################################################################# -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx