Re: Downloading Unsigned Binary Files

  • From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:36:26 -0500

boy, I will ask this then, how much does it cost to sign an appand how safe 
are signed apps?

Johnnie Apple Seed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:07 PM
Subject: Downloading Unsigned Binary Files


Hi;
I've just been reading a nice blog entry on www.asp.net.  It was by a 
Microsoft guy, who was saying bad things about the security of Firefox.  One 
comment he made, was that Firefox defaults to allowing people to download 
unsigned binary files.

Whilst IE will allow you to download them, it defaults to presenting a 
dialog, with the "do not run" button selected.  You may be asking why I'm 
writing this?  Well, security is of growing importance to us all.  We depend 
on our computers for more and more, yet unsigned binary files are something 
most people aren't aware of.

Most of you will have seen the dialog that appears when you try to run most 
of the files you download from the web, especially .exe files, if you have 
Windows XP SP 2.  This dialog isn't something to be afraid of, in fact it's 
doing you a favour.  Basically, it's telling you that the web site from whom 
you are downloading this file, hasn't got a security certificate.  It's 
providing you with that information so you can decide whether you want to 
trust that source from which you are downloading that software.  At the end 
of the day, it's still up to you whether you decide you're brave enough to 
download it.

I was recently browsing the web when I came across someone hosting a 
download of the binary executable file for Windows XP SP 2 on their web 
site.  Fortunately, I didn't download it, as it stunk of malware having not 
come from Microsoft, and well, I had the MSDN DVD with XP SP 2 on it. 
However, there's nothing to say that this person, who was passing this off 
as the genuine file, hadn't altered it to delete all your files, or the 
person they got it from hadn't done likewise.  Yup, that sort of thing 
really can happen, and with any file you download from the web.

The morale of the story is...  Well, there's actually two.  Firstly, that 
dialog telling you that you're about to run unsigned files is actually 
trying to prevent you from potentially installing spyware and other types of 
malware onto your system.  Of course, not everything that causes this dialog 
to appear, will drop spyware and malware onto your system, but it's there to 
give you additional information to help you decide on whether you trust the 
source of the software.  Secondly, there's perils in that there web.  Not 
everything you see is as harmless as it makes out it is.  So be vigilant in 
what you choose to download and where you download it from.  Disabling any 
security feature in XP SP 2 isn't a great idea, they're there to help you, 
even if it takes a few extra keystrokes.

Will Pearson
Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++)
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